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Image is allegedly of the note Trump wrote while editing a speech while on the way back from the G20 summit.


The top Russian-Chinese agent, Donald Trump, has decided that the pace of dedollarization and the decline of American financial hegemony is going too slowly. He has therefore decided to put tariffs on everybody; from America's largest trading partners to uninhabited islands. In the process, he is trying to create an autarkic America. Jokes aside, interpretation and analysis of this has ranged across a wide spectrum. I think we can broadly agree that the most idiotic are the "true believers"; those that actually believe Trump's every word, and that this will somehow bring back American manufacturing and whatever other inane promises he has made.

However, there is a much more interesting debate. The first camp are those who believe Trump is acting as an inadvertent accelerationist due to his lack of understanding about how the world economy and dollar hegemony functions (and that this will subsequently ensure that countries flock to China instead). The second camp are those who believe that Trump does know what he's doing, at least to a certain extent, and that the effective result of this period of madness will be countries kowtowing to the United States; renegotiating trade deals to be even more in favor of the US in order to get tariffs reduced. There's even a yet more cynical camp who believes that in fact, this entire trade war is just theater for further national wealth redistributions from poor to rich; that all these monumental international trade wars are more of a sideshow. To quote the linked article: "[...] out of the mountain of tariffs that threaten to turn into a global trade war will emerge the mouse of further tax cuts."

I'm not embarrassed to admit that I have absolutely no idea which one of these is the closest model to reality. We're in new economic and political ground, and even if the tariffs are quickly renegotiated and/or dropped, the impacts will continue to reverberate around the world for years. I'm sure we'll debate this for months to come here, though!


Last week's thread is here.
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Israel-Palestine Conflict

If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.

Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news.
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon. - Telegram is @IbnRiad.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis. - Telegram is @EyesOnSouth.
English-language Twitter account in the same group as the previous two. - Telegram here.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists
Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Sources:

Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.
Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.
Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
Simplicius, who publishes on Substack. Like others, his political analysis should be soundly ignored, but his knowledge of weaponry and military strategy is generally quite good.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Pro-Russian Telegram Channels:

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine Telegram Channels:

Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 13 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Florida Teacher Loses Job Over Trans Student’s Name

The state is reviewing, and may rescind, her teaching certificate as a result.

First of a kind

[-] Kaputnik@hexbear.net 17 points 2 hours ago

Teen kills parents in attempt to gain funds to assassinate Trump. The teen was linked to the Order of Nine Angels, a neo-nazi/pedophile group originating in the UK. (Huge CW for looking up this group or any related groups for violence, pedophilia, animal cruelty, suicide)

Anyone have any thoughts on ONA or related groups like 764 and terrorgram? They feel very parapolitical to me in a strategy of tension kind of way. They've been linked to multiple terror attacks across Europe and the Americas, oftentimes carried out by people as young as 14. Right wing accelerationism seems to be on an upswing since COVID.

[-] KnilAdlez@hexbear.net 8 points 1 hour ago

Is Trump not their guy? What is happening?

[-] spectre@hexbear.net 3 points 20 minutes ago

Wiki says they're runic/satanic Nazi supporters and glorifiers not Christian Nazi-Nazis

[-] KnilAdlez@hexbear.net 1 points 10 minutes ago

So now we have Nazi factions trying to kill each other? What is this, the LAPD?

[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 17 points 4 hours ago

Ecuador imposes state of emergency before razor-close election - CBS NEWS

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On the eve of a too-close-to-call presidential election, Ecuador declared a state of emergency Saturday in seven of its 24 provinces, including the capital Quito, saying it was needed to fight a dramatic rise in drug-linked violence.

The measure, set to last 60 days, took effect just before Sunday's election pitting incumbent Daniel Noboa against his leftist opponent Luisa Gonzalez, and after the country began the year with its bloodiest start ever, averaging a killing every hour.

The state of emergency applies to the coastal provinces of Guayas, Los Rios, Manabi, Santa Elena and El Oro, the Amazonian provinces of Orellana and Sucumbios, as well as to Quito and the troubled mining town of Camilo Ponce Enriquez.

It also applies to the nation's prisons.

Noboa imposed the measure amid an "increase in violence, serious crime, and the intense unlawful activities of organized armed groups," according to a decree he signed.

The order suspends the legal protection against unauthorized search and entry of homes and mail, as well as the freedom of assembly, and imposes a nightly curfew in the cities of Guayas, Los Rios, Orellana and Sucumbios, as well as Ponce Enriquez.

Noboa, in power since November 2023, has previously decreed states of emergency to combat the rise of drug gangs, who have waged bloody turf fights over control of the illicit trade, spreading terror among ordinary Ecuadorans.

As he pursued his "iron fist" policies, the country's homicide rate fell from a record 47 per 100,000 inhabitants in 2023 to 38 in 2024, yet remained the highest in Latin America last year, according to the group Insight Crime.

Noboa last year declared Ecuador to be in an internal armed conflict, allowing him to keep troops in the streets to combat some 20 drug gangs linked to international cartels the president brands as "terrorists."

It was not immediately clear how the election-eve emergency measures would affect the voting process Sunday, or voters' decisions.

But crime has been a key issue between Noboa, 37, and his 47-year-old rival Gonzalez, as close to 14 million Ecuadorans prepare to decide who will run their nation for the next four years.

A Noboa victory would likely spell more "iron fist" policies, which have had mixed success. He wants to see U.S. troops deploy to Ecuador to tackle the cartels wrestling to control the flow of cocaine through Ecuadoran ports to Asia, the United States and Europe.

A win by Gonzalez, who hopes to be Ecuador's first female president, would signal a sharp shift to the left and a likely cooling of Ecuador's relations with the United States and its president, Donald Trump.

An American intelligence assessment of the Ecuadorian presidential election concluded that a reelection of the incumbent president would better serve U.S. national security interests over the challenger. Ecuador ranks among the 10 largest economies in Latin America and the bilateral trade between Ecuador and the United States surged to $15.2 billion in 2023.

Ecuador avoided Mr. Trump's imposed tariffs rolled out by the White House last week.

[-] jack@hexbear.net 9 points 2 hours ago

I fucking hate this guy

[-] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 28 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

US airstrikes continue on Yemen for the 29th night in a row, with multiple rounds of airstrikes targeting the Al Bayda', Saada and Hodeidah Governorates. I think this is the first time Al Bayda' has been hit in this campaign, feel free to check me on that as usual, I can and probably will make mistakes, I'm only human and it's been almost a month of continuous airstrikes now, so it's difficult to keep track of it all.

9 airstrikes in Marib Governorate, with 5 targeting Mount Hailan, according to other sources.

Warning for potential graphic imagery of casualties during ongoing airstrikes:

Al Masirah TV twitter

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A commentator also mentioned Saudi Arabian shelling of Saada last night, and yeah orher sources collaborated that.

[-] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 54 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

During a pro-Palestine demonstration at the National Assembly in Cape Town, activist and leader of Cape Town Intifada Uzair Mohamed was unlawfully detained by authorities, in a pattern that resembles similiar crackdowns in the US and Europe. Following immediate outrage of an illegal arrest, the charges were shifted to wearing a mask (which isn't illegal).

The Western Cape province is also headed by the pro-Western, liberal ~~Diet Apartheid~~ Democratic Alliance party and some of the most fanatical pro-piSSraeli entities such as the SAJBD draw large amount of support in Cape Town. A few days after the arrest, several Members of Parliament of both the Democratic Alliance and Patriotic Alliance also had made a trip to the Nazi state on the opposite end of the African continent.

The illegal arrest of Uzair Mohamed and attempts to suppress pro-Palestinian activism is largely only unique to Cape Town and are at most, infrequent in other major cities such as Johannesburg, Pretoria or Durban. - SAJFP, Salaamedia

[-] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 54 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Looks like we have our first F-16 shot down by Russia in Ukraine now. Both Russian and Ukrainian sources (including Ukrainian President Zelenskyy) have confirmed that an F-16 was lost in combat.

Zelenskyy's statement

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Today, Captain Pavlo Ivanov was tragically killed during an F-16 combat mission. The guy was only 26. My condolences to his family and to all of Pavlo’s brothers-in-arms.

As I've already discussed, the early model F-16s Ukraine got are roughly equivalent to their MiG-29s in capability, only being superior in electronic countermeasures (ECM) and native support for American munitions. These early 4th generation aircraft aren't a match for Russian 4.5 generation fighters in a straight fight.

The Ukrainian F-16s have also been relying exclusively on this ECM (provided by the external AN/ALQ-131 external pod) and terrain masking (flying low close to the ground) to suppress Russian Ground Based Air Defense (GBAD), and flying with no anti radiation missiles for suppressing these defences. While a successful tactic up until now, it's highly risky. If the ECM fails or is bypassed, the pilot has no way to suppress any GBAD firing at them. If you look at the Russian air campaign in Ukraine, the escort fighters or strike fighters carrying out the strikes themselves (in Su-35s and Su-34s) are always carrying at least one Kh-31P anti radiation missile. In the US Navy air campaign against Yemen, the EA-18G Growlers are flying escort missions with at least two AGM-88E anti radiation missiles, along with highly advanced ECM that is much more sophisticated than the AN/ALQ-131.

I'm not a fighter pilot, but if I was and you told me I had to fly a strike mission in a block 20 F-16 for Ukraine in Sumy, where our high level friendly Ukrainian GBAD (in an S-300V battery) has been destroyed, and I'm going up against the best of the best Russian GBAD and combat air patrols in S-400 GBAD and Su-35 fighter jets, and I'll have to fly a nap of the earth/terrain masking flight path to the launch point for my bombs, with only an ECM pod and no anti radiation missiles to suppress the Russian GBAD, and that there would be no allied Ukrainian aircraft higher up with anti radiation missiles to act as an escort, and all I have to try fend off the Russian Su-35s is the crappy radar on the block 20 F-16, along with 2 AIM-120 and AIM-9 air to air missiles, I would not fly the mission.

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 20 points 7 hours ago

zelensky-pain But if we only had F16s we could win the war!

[-] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 9 points 6 hours ago

If they got 100 block 70 F-16s, maybe they could try turn the tide against the Russian Air Force. 20-30 block 20 F-16s (what Ukraine has got so far) is just to prevent the loss of capabilities with the attrition rate of Ukrainian MiG-29s.

[-] wheresmysurplusvalue@hexbear.net 20 points 8 hours ago

Random unimportant and possibly dumb question spurred by your comment, what's to stop a Ukrainian pilot from just flying away from Ukraine and trying to surrender somewhere? Can they like radio ahead saying they surrender, or would they just get shot down? Cuz if I was asked to fly a mission like that, that's what would pass my mind.

[-] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 15 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

That's very unlikely because the Ukrainian Air Force pilots are well aware of the game here, they know the odds are not in their favour and the survivability of early 4th generation platforms on the modern battlefield is not high, but they signed up anyways. These aren't conscripts that got plucked from the streets weeks ago. F-16 pilots were likely trained for months or years outside of Ukraine in NATO countries, with deep knowledge of their own capabilities and Russia's capabilities. They are not like the general public that doesn't know the difference between say a cold war era F-16 and a modern F-16. They've been flying these highly risky missions in Soviet era aircraft, and now early F-16 models, for over 3 years now. So a pilot surrendering is quite unlikely due to all of these factors. They believe they are defending their country against all odds.

Could a Ukrainian pilot potentially surrender? Maybe, but I'm unsure how that would work in an era of well beyond visual range engagements. There is no universally accepted sign of surrender for combat aircraft. In within visual range engagements, pilots would lower their landing gear and this would sometimes be accepted. Radio on an open frequency could state your intention to surrender, but there's no requirement to respect it. I guess Russia would love to capture an F-16, but fighter pilots are highly unlikely to surrender.

[-] sisatici@hexbear.net 20 points 9 hours ago

seems like terrain masking is a quite annoyance for surface to air missile systems. why they don't make more awac planes for this. yes they are expensive but honestly I don't know why they are that expensive

[-] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 18 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

The Russian A-50s have started flying a few weeks ago, for the first time in over a year. So AWACS aircraft are back. They are expensive and hard to make because they require a lot of modern sophisticated electronics to work on the modern battlefield. You can't build an AWACS with 40 year old sensor equivalents and expect it to work against modern electronic countermeasures. Russia is working on building A-100 AWACS aircraft, with testing ongoing. The current Ukraine war and sanctions have hurt the modernisation programs (Su-57, Su-75, A-100), with focus moved to more pressing issues like artillery and armour production. Only the Su-57 appears to have survived.

[-] geikei@hexbear.net 52 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Maybe im naive but the Trump administration, despite being staffed to the brim with insane China hawks, folding on its "anti-china economic warfare" before even starting it can be spinned into a more optimistic view on the prospects of hot US-China war. The murikans dont seem to have it in them. With the first sign of things getting tough, the US folded like a cheap tent. Just the prospect of things going to shit was enough. No prices have increased, nobody lost their job, nobody has been deprived of anything real. Some numbers on screens went up or down and the powers that be forced Trump’s hand. Even if instead of chaotic and incompetent it was some calculated and competent plan for a US-China clash, at some point most of these pressures and prospects would have arisen all the same and at the end of the day it wouldnt have much better chances to win against China. Will they really decide to destroy everything in a nuclear holocaust when the decision for a hot war is there when they couldnt even let the bond market freak out for more than 5 days ? Just as them losing the trade war (or at least not having the capacity to execute it without country breaking consequences) became obvious within days, the fact that they would lose any war close to China shores in 2028 or whenever will also sink in. Especially with the trajectory of both countries. It may still be possible to sustain that delusion in the big 2025 and rig war games to barely tie the engagement but its rapidly becoming less possible, especially after this whole debacle conlcudes

[-] Sebrof@hexbear.net 29 points 8 hours ago

So, the only thing stopping us from Nuclear Armageddon is what it would do to the line

[-] someone@hexbear.net 10 points 6 hours ago

Critical support for... capitalism, I guess?

[-] ziggurter@hexbear.net 19 points 7 hours ago

Hasn't this always been the case? think-about-it

[-] sictransitgloria@hexbear.net 21 points 8 hours ago

it's the end of history folks everyone is saying it

[-] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 36 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

The treats must flow. As seen by the various tantrums on social media about the price of the Nintendo Switch 2, US society is unable to accept the treats (cheap electronic consumer goods) being shut off. Hence tarrifs exemptions of electronic consumer goods. Truly a sad society.

[-] Boise_Idaho@hexbear.net 16 points 6 hours ago

This was obvious when Covid hit. People had temper tantrums over wearing cloth on their faces. Can you imagine USians eating war rations in some hypothetical hot war?

[-] GeneralSwitch2Boycott@hexbear.net 7 points 5 hours ago

The current US would do war rations in some annoyingly stupid way that renders criticism of it seem right-wing even though it sucks ass and could be done better by an actual communist government. Instead it further alienates the people from any idea of government programs.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 41 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

No prices have increased, nobody lost their job, nobody has been deprived of anything real.

You need to look at it electorally. What they became afraid of was every single person over 50 looking at their pension account and seeing it had decreased by thousands. They were thinking of the electoral damage of it.

They will continue a war as long as they aren't in electoral threat from it.

Ironically Dems are immune to this. Dems will accept losing an election to pursue some imperial ambition. The republicans on the other hand are more scared of electoral damage. The numbers on the screens are the only thing that will ever really change the minds of the maga voters.

[-] P1d40n3@hexbear.net 32 points 10 hours ago

It's been said before, and I'll say it again - Trump is a coward. He talks big, but folds at the first sign of real push back. I have a hard time seeing him lead the US into a hot war anywhere.

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 20 points 10 hours ago

Chinese aid is just that good.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 64 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Leaked Data Reveals Massive Israeli [sic] Campaign to Remove Pro-Palestine Posts on Facebook and Instagram | Drop Site News

A sweeping crackdown on posts on Instagram and Facebook that are critical of Israel [sic]—or even vaguely supportive of Palestinians—was directly orchestrated by the government of Israel [sic], according to internal Meta data obtained by Drop Site News. The data show that Meta has complied with 94% of takedown requests issued by Israel [sic] since October 7, 2023. Israel [sic] is the biggest originator of takedown requests globally by far, and Meta has followed suit—widening the net of posts it automatically removes, and creating what can be called the largest mass censorship operation in modern history.

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 6 points 3 hours ago

I believe it. It was incredibly difficult getting anything pro-palestine past the censors. Images, oblique references, anything. Facebook's moderation is tight

[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 41 points 11 hours ago

There Will Be No Return to the 1991 Borders: Russian FM Lavrov - Telesur English

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Russia calls on the international community to accept ‘the reality on the ground’ in Ukraine. On Friday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov declared that “under no circumstances” will Russia return to the 1991 borders, when Ukraine became independent from the Soviet Union.

“Never and under no circumstances. And the Trump administration understands that as well — it has stated more than once that Zelensky will have to accept the territorial issue,” he said.

Lavrov, whose country expanded its territory through the annexation of the Crimean Peninsula and four other regions, emphasized that “a return to the 1991 borders, as Zelensky continues to demand, is impossible.”

“If only because people live in those territories whom Zelensky considers to be ‘creatures’. He said it more than once before the start of the special military operation,” Lavrov remarked, while attending a meeting of foreign ministers from the post-Soviet Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) in the Kazakh city of Almaty.

In this regard, he noted that while the United States wants to address the root causes of the current conflict in Ukraine, Europe refuses to do so. Russia is calling on the international community to accept the “reality on the ground” in Ukraine, which implies Russian control over nearly 20% of the neighboring country’s territory. Currently, the Russian army is launching a new offensive in the Sumy and Kharkiv regions to create a security zone along the border.

[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 45 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Indirect US-Iran negotiations have started in Oman. President Trump is willing to make concessions in order to reach a deal with Iran, per U.S. Officials

Iranian Foreign Minister, Abbas Araqchi, will ONLY discuss the issue of nuclear proliferation – not the ballistic missile program or Iran's support for regional groups. These two additional demands are a no-go for Iran, and the Supreme Leader has not authorized the Foreign Ministry to even discuss them. If the Americans push on either of these two topics, the negotiations are over.

Iranian media report that the first signs of the negotiations in Oman are 'positive'

The indirect talks between Iran and the United States in Oman will 'conclude today' and not extend into tomorrow, and there is currently no truth to a direct meeting between Witkoff and Araqchi

Immediately following the first round of negotiations in Oman, the Iranian Rial rose sharply against the US Dollar, going from 97,000 USD per Toman to 92,900 USD per Toman

'The indirect talks in Oman were constructive and held in a generally positive atmosphere, and they lasted approximately 2.5 hours. U.S. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff and Iranian Foreign Minister Seyyed Abbas Araqchi talked briefly face-to-face in the presence of the Omani Foreign Minister after the end of the first round of negotiations. The talks will continue, and the exact timing and date will be announced in the near future.

We will not allow any country, including the United States, to go too far and impose unrealistic demands upon us. The Qajar and Pahlavi eras are over, and this is the era of the great Islamic Iran, which holds its head high.'

Iranian Foreign Minister, Abbas Araqchi: 'While leaving the negotiations room, we encountered the U.S. Envoy, Steve Witkoff, and exchanged greetings out of courtesy, as is customary in diplomacy. Nothing content-related was said.'

'Today we have come close to a 'basis' on which negotiations can be held – Saturday we will continue, and start the negotiation process, including the timetable'

'The discussions took place in a calm and polite atmosphere, and the American side did not issue any threats'

'Both sides want a deal in the short-term, and not fruitless negotiations that drag on for months or years, but this won't be easy

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[-] departee@hexbear.net 12 points 9 hours ago

97,000 USD per Toman to 92,900 USD per Toman

Toman per USD

[-] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 22 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I'm going to guess this is the Middle East Spectator telegram, because of the wording.

Iranian Foreign Minister, Abbas Araqchi, will ONLY discuss the issue of nuclear proliferation – not the ballistic missile program or Iran's support for regional groups.

This is why Iran keeps the nuclear option open in the first place, so negotiations are made around this and not the missile program or Axis of Resistance. Iran's missile program is well beyond the point of negotiations, they have so many of these missiles that restrictions are impossible. The US and Israel are in direct conflict with various elements of the resistance at this time.

Iranian Foreign Minister, Abbas Araqchi: 'While leaving the negotiations room, we encountered the U.S. Envoy, Steve Witkoff, and exchanged greetings out of courtesy, as is customary in diplomacy. Nothing content-related was said.'

Yeah sure, and I'm a millionaire

The discussions took place in a calm and polite atmosphere, and the American side did not issue any threats'

Yeah the negotiations will take place in a clam and positive atmosphere, that's a prerequisite for having them in the first place. There's no need for any verbalised threats to be made, because the threat is obvious to everyone. While these negotiations took place in Oman, a US aircraft carrier with F-35 stealth jets was operating off of the coast of Oman. 6 B-2 Spirit stealth bombers are in Diego Garcia, 30% of the entire fleet, bombing Yemen and leaving large holes in mountains. There's no need to say anything there, both sides going into the negotiations understand this. At first Iran said that they would never negotiate under "maximum pressure" and that even negotiations around their nuclear program were off of the table, yet they are doing exactly that, negotiating about the nuclear program under maximum pressure.

I'm glad negotiations are taking place of course, but Iranian media is not going to be fully open about this. At least we're not at the stage of scapegoating Pezeshkian for everything yet, when there are valid military and diplomatic reasons for the current course of events (he is a very easy scapegoat to be fair).

[-] sempersigh@hexbear.net 73 points 14 hours ago

lol admitting defeat already huh

[-] Boise_Idaho@hexbear.net 2 points 6 hours ago

Trump wetness index: Drier than desiccant silica

[-] Leegh@hexbear.net 41 points 12 hours ago

Tim Cook was not gonna let Trump cook his shiny fruit products

[-] miz@hexbear.net 26 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Tim Apple Turnover kelly

[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 47 points 13 hours ago

It's fine, who wants to build the high end value add stuff anyway. Exempt high tech goods so that Americans can compete on the lower value add end

galaxy-brain

[-] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 32 points 12 hours ago

So with the Tarrifs here gone and Chinas counter tarifs still standing .. did Trump just substancially increased the US Trade deficit with China ?

[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 7 points 8 hours ago

Only someone who doesn't understand trumponomics would ask something so foolish

Obviously it didn't increase the trade deficit, he's still openly white nationalist. Come on

[-] Parsani@hexbear.net 38 points 13 hours ago

I thought iPhone was going to be made in USA?

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