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spoilerUS Health Secretary Robert F Kennedy Jr has pledged "a massive testing and research effort" to determine the cause of autism in five months.

Experts cautioned that finding the causes of autism spectrum disorder – a complex syndrome that has been studied for decades – will not be straightforward, and called the effort misguided and unrealistic.

Kennedy, who has promoted debunked theories suggesting autism is linked to vaccines, said during a cabinet meeting on Thursday that a US research effort will "involve hundreds of scientists from around the world."

"By September, we will know what has caused the autism epidemic and we'll be able to eliminate those exposures," Kennedy said.

Autism diagnoses have increased sharply since 2000, according to government figures, and by 2020 the rate among 8-year-olds reached 2.77%, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

Scientists attribute at least part of the rise to increased awareness of autism and an expanding definition of the disorder. Researchers have also been investigating environmental factors.

The US National Institutes of Health (NIH), a government agency, spends more than $300m (£230m) per year researching autism.

The NIH lists some possible risk factors including prenatal exposure to pesticides or air pollution, premature birth or low birth weight, maternal health problems and parents conceiving at older ages.

Kennedy did not give details on the research project or how much funding will be devoted to autism research.

Since being sworn in two months ago, the former environmental lawyer has slashed the budget for the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), which includes the NIH, CDC and other government health organisations that oversee food and drug safety and conduct disease research.

"We're going to look at vaccines, but we're going to look at everything," Kennedy later said during an interview with Fox News about the scope of the undertaking. "Everything is on the table, our food system, our water, our air, different ways of parenting, all the kind of changes that may have triggered this epidemic."

In a statement the Autism Society of America called Kennedy's plan "harmful, misleading, and unrealistic".

"It is neither a chronic illness nor a contagion," the society said.

Christopher Banks, the society's president, questioned whether the research efforts would be transparent and said claims that autism is solely caused by environmental factors were "misleading theories (which) perpetuate harmful stigma, jeopardize public health, and distract from the critical needs of the autism community."

Kennedy has also alarmed some over his hiring of David Geier, who has been described by some as a conspiracy theorist, to research vaccines and autism, and on Thursday Democrats in the US House of Representatives wrote to HHS "to express our urgent concern" over the selection of "a biased and discredited individual".

Geier is a leading vaccine sceptic who was fined by the state of Maryland for practicing medicine without a medical degree or licence and prescribing dangerous treatments to autistic children.

The discredited idea that childhood vaccines are linked to autism first gained mainstream attention after a paper published in 1998 in the medical journal The Lancet by British doctor Andrew Wakefield.

Wakefield was later found to have financial conflicts of interest and the UK's General Medical Council found that he falsified his results. The research paper was retracted.

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[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 10 points 9 hours ago

I hope he's not trying to put people in "treatment" camps.

[-] Sleve_McDichael@hexbear.net 19 points 14 hours ago

Is this before or after Biden’s promise to cure cancer

[-] SmunchBucket@hexbear.net 21 points 15 hours ago

The koch brothers are going to have him assassinated.

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 17 points 15 hours ago

Live David Koch reaction

live-kissinger-reaction

[-] nfreak@lemmy.ml 12 points 14 hours ago

Hopefully he continues his family's legacy 🙏

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 15 points 14 hours ago

May his head Just Do That On Its Own

[-] SmunchBucket@hexbear.net 12 points 14 hours ago

brainworms what if one day the worm just pops out

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 2 points 1 hour ago

Sadly, Comrade Worm passed away some time ago

[-] getoffthedrugsdude@lemmy.ml 8 points 12 hours ago

Reason 2,547 why I keep my diagnosis a secret irl...

[-] Meh@hexbear.net 72 points 19 hours ago

I really want this guy to go into the family business of being dead

[-] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 55 points 18 hours ago

Now that we've gotten all of that scientific research apparatus out of the way, accomplishing in five months what decades worth of research couldn't should be a breeze! i-love-not-thinking

[-] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 23 points 17 hours ago

Especially now that so much of that pesky research has been defunded.

[-] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 54 points 19 hours ago

He doesn't have to bother, I already know it. It's me, I'm the cause of autism. Evidence: Every time I date someone, they end up figuring out they're autistic.

[-] BilduEnjoyer@hexbear.net 34 points 17 hours ago

Don’t let him find me.

[-] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 93 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

The BBC article is making him look better than it really is. The Hill headlined their article: "RFK Jr.: ‘By September we will know what has caused the autism epidemic’" and made sure to clarify:

Kennedy, a longtime vaccine critic who helped found one of the most prominent anti-vaccine organizations, has spent decades religiously promoting the theory that childhood vaccines have led to an increase in autism and chronic illnesses, despite studies repeatedly showing otherwise.

He's going to say it was the vaccines (since he has been promoting that idea for decades), because not only will this nonsense from the 2000s not die (spoiler alert: there's no epidemic, it's actually just that it's being identified more, like the old thing with left handedness), but it's now being promoted at the highest levels of government. Of course, this debunked "theory" comes with a nice helping of dehumanization that autistic people are subhuman, right?

[-] SmunchBucket@hexbear.net 17 points 15 hours ago

He's doing the elon move.

Promise some bullshit for a year or two out, then in a year or two just promise something else.

[-] erik@hexbear.net 64 points 20 hours ago

100% he basically just gave himself half a year to dick around at the office and then just stroll in once September rolls around and say vaccines.

[-] christian@hexbear.net 33 points 20 hours ago

I was almost positive op had some form of "he'll conclude vaccines are the cause" under the spoiler.

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 36 points 20 hours ago

I'm not confident it will be "lol vaccines mabbe idk?" because that's only the grift that got him into office. There's a hard ceiling to antivax shit. It's solidly pseudoscientific and no study they produce would stand up to scrutiny. There are immediate public health consequences which turn the vast majority of the population- only like 16% of US adults are antivax- against them with no ability to control the narrative. The opposition from the pharmaceutical industry will be big and targeted at the republican candidates threatening their profits while democrats are happy to accept that lobbying and fund their research.

The grift where he really stands to profit and avoid public opposition is with the food supply. People already tolerate extremely abusive migrant/prison/child labour to provide food which everyone across the political spectrum hates. It's fully rational and scientific to want to dismantle the food production system of this country. If you're providing cheap eggs during the bird flu pandemic you've caused or healthy tomatoes when outdoor agriculture collapses due to defunding NOAA, otherwise normal people will turn a blind eye to how those foods got there. He has so much more potential to use this as a cover for pushing really dark policies against a larger outgroup. He'll get a huge amount of money from the private prison industry that's acting as his Wellness SS in the camps. If he finds a way to use this report as a launching point for that, it's going to go a lot further than him just throwing slop to the antivaxxers who only got him a participation trophy in the 2024 election.

[-] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 21 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Sure, I definitely think he will do other harmful stuff.

However, the US public does like genocidal stuff like dehumanizing. If he doesn't do the vaccines thing, he could come up with another "conclusion" to this "investigation" that's much worse to support terrible things

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 15 points 15 hours ago

America is a joke lmao

[-] Bloobish@hexbear.net 9 points 14 hours ago

Statement sounds like the start of the A or B plot for an episode of South Park

[-] lib1@hexbear.net 37 points 20 hours ago

I’ve considered getting my son tested for autism but I’m worried about what that would lead to in this administration. Talk of work camps does not bode well and neither does this bullshit

[-] Lerios@hexbear.net 32 points 19 hours ago

yeah, mood. i have been told that i most likely have adhd and literaly had appointments to get it diagnosed before covid cancelled that and honestly i'm glad it did. being on-record as disabled seems kind of dangerous

[-] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 21 points 19 hours ago

I’ve basically accepted not medically transitioning for the foreseeable future, just in case

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 21 points 19 hours ago

If there are any outspokenly progressive physicians in your area, you might be able to discuss that with them and have an informal consultation that isn't charted explicitly or formally diagnosed until it's safe to do so. But going that route you probably wouldn't be able to get prescription meds or state/school recognition of the disorder.

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 40 points 20 hours ago

different ways of parenting

This one seems especially ominous to me. I'm not familiar with his base's position on parenting beyond being parental rights demons. Is this pro-child abuse, anti-public and progressive charter schools, anti-divorce, or something benign like restricting access to electronics? The food system reference is going to be him recommending his wellness concentration camps, water and air are going to be recommendations to further deregulate environmental protections, and he'll obviously try to polish up antivax pseudoscience. The evil intent in all of those is clear. "Different ways of parenting" is so ambiguous in what it will be targeting.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 26 points 20 hours ago

wellness concentration camps

I wonder what euphemism they'll use to describe those. I wonder if they'll use marketing-slash-SEO speak. WellCamps - maybe?

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 36 points 20 hours ago

He calls them "wellness farms": https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-yes-rfk-jr-030000179.html

Just, you know, farms where we send specific groups of people who can't leave. And they're obligated to work. But that work makes them free of depression.

[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 37 points 20 hours ago

So... the work sets you free.

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 14 points 18 hours ago

....of depression.

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[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 26 points 19 hours ago

you know, like 2000 years ago there were no written instances of domestic violence. now there are a lot. i wonder what changed?

probably the kids today are playing too much pacman, asking too many questions, and aren't drinking enough of my patent medicine. blam, Lawyer Science.

[-] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 31 points 20 hours ago

It's going to be China isn't it

[-] GeneralSwitch2Boycott@hexbear.net 23 points 20 hours ago

Chinese vaccines.

[-] huf@hexbear.net 21 points 20 hours ago

yeah, he'll go on a wacky globetrotting adventure with some colorful sidekicks to find and defeat the cause of autism in a chinese mountain shrine

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 10 points 19 hours ago

Make it stylized like a goofy 1970s action flick and I'd watch it.

I wouldn't like it, but I'd watch it.

[-] Future_Honkey@hexbear.net 18 points 20 hours ago

SSynthesis: Chinese are invading our vaccines!

[-] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 16 points 19 hours ago

He's going to find (more) evidence that poverty increases the risk of autism and ignore the results, isn't he.

[-] lil_tank@hexbear.net 28 points 18 hours ago

Poverty can make adapting a lot harder and therefore make autism more visible but it doesn't increase the probability of being autistic

Poverty doesn't directly increase the likelihood of being autistic, but it increases the likelihood of low birth weight, exposure to pollution, and stress in the mother, which in turn are risk factors for autism. It is possible that reverse causation exists with a direct comparison of poverty to autism, but a correlation certainly is there, and a causation is possible.

[-] lil_tank@hexbear.net 1 points 1 hour ago

Okay I didn't know there was evidence of a link between ASD and environmental factors, the more you know!

[-] CrookedSerpent@hexbear.net 20 points 20 hours ago

Can't wait to get my normal pills

[-] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 15 points 20 hours ago

The good news: they're just mint-flavored chewable Tic Tac brand®️™️ placebos

The bad news: You have to engage in inane small talk to get them

[-] dkr567@hexbear.net 11 points 19 hours ago

lol he's going to outlaw vaccines I bet.

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 17 points 18 hours ago

If the admin goes all in, i wonder what the fallout would look like. There'd be 10% of the country cheering like assholew, but then...what would happen with everyone else?

Some people would say "i don't like it, i wish i could give vaccines, but its the law now."

How many people would say "lol fuck that" and give shots anyways?

doomer

[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 14 points 17 hours ago

I believe it will be like abortions. The rich will continue getting vaccinated while they pretend they weren't, meanwhile poor people gets nothing and have to suffer.

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