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[-] AnAustralianPhotographer@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago
[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I learned on VIM, but when I found Nano there was no going back.

[-] ztwhixsemhwldvka@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That's like saying you ate sourdough but then discovered wonder bread

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

More like sourdough doesn't go good with everything. Different tastes for different things.

[-] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago

It's time for you to find Micro. The cycle continues.

[-] jdeath@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

wow, nano is usually everyone's first editor and them moving on to Vim. interesting to invert that. what do you like about nano?

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Ease of use. When it comes to coding I prefer a GUI as well.

I used Vim when I first installed Linux. It was painful but I used it. I found Nano and I stopped using Vim. No comparison in usability.

[-] jdeath@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

yeah Vim takes a lot of effort to learn. Like any advanced tool. I will 100% always fire up nano when in a hurry. but i like trying to learn Vim as an exercise (in torture? idk haha)

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

That depends a lot on when they started.

When I first installed a distribution where the base system only came with nano instead of standard editors, I was very confused (and very disappointed that this whas what they'd come up with as a "friendly" interface).

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[-] vala@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Does nano have LSP support?

Edit: LSP = Language Server Protocol

[-] AnAustralianPhotographer@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I dont know what that acronym means. I just use nano as a basic text editor, its automatically showing me different colours XML now. I have used it as a text editor for code before, but if i knew i was going to be coding lots, id look at others like vim and emacs. Me using it is a result of it being the quickest tool to get the job done at the time 'efficiently' and i know there are more powerful ones out there.

[-] Boomkop3@reddthat.com 4 points 10 months ago

If I had to guess they're on about the "language server protocol"

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[-] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 28 points 10 months ago

Back in the early 2000s I met some guy who had once sold a copy of edit.exe to some store as if it were some software he had written for managing orders and inventory. The folks at the store used windows, but they would open up edit.exe and it looked just like the stuff that the larger store chains used to manage their own orders... The guy just made a sample file and instructed them how to input data in a specific format that made it all look like a table, but it was just a text file with no validation of any kind.

[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago

Still, a template can be immensely useful

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 10 months ago

i edit all my html in an actual physical notebook like a civilised person

[-] jdeath@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

wish i could find my old notepads full of BASIC and HTML lol

[-] dosuser123456@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 10 months ago

as a matter of fact many of my batch and basic thingies were made on the margins of my history notebooks

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago
[-] dosuser123456@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 10 months ago

a fellow man of ~~culture~~ "why even bother with that theyre just text editors" i see

[-] balsoft@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Nah. I was so annoyed by how primitive editors are that I started writing my own one, that would allow me to seamlessly traverse the AST of the code, rather than being stuck on the low abstraction levels of characters, words and paragraphs. After a bunch of misery making tree-sitter work with Haskell, and using it for a while, I stumbled upon Helix. It is pretty much my idea but faster and working well.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Also the object-verb and selection-verb paradigm just makes so much more sense compared to vim's verb-object/-motion paradigm. Especially with the ability to have multiple cursors and selections. It's so powerful.

I started with Emacs for about a year or two, then vim for about 10+ years, then neovim, then VS Code with vim bindings for a few years, then Kakoune, which was very interesting, then VS Code with Kakoune bindings, then the switch to Helix was very natural. Never looked back after about 2 years with Helix.

It's basically everything I loved from VS Code but in the terminal. And all the keyboard goodness from vim and Kakoune, combined. It's great.

[-] stsquad@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

A lot of the Emacs language modes have been replaced with tree-sitter equivalents now.

[-] balsoft@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

That's not what I want though. I really enjoy jumping around the actual syntax tree of the code, e.g. "select the entire function body" or "select the next list element", stuff like this. It becomes the natural way of traversing the code after a short while. Also, Emacs is still single-threaded and thus quite laggy and slow at times; however I do like it a lot and have used it for a number of years (with evil-mode), before finally jumping to my own editor and then helix.

[-] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Same with neovim

[-] acidowl@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 10 months ago
[-] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago
[-] jxk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

Viitor and emacsitor aren't even words

[-] gbuttersnaps@programming.dev 8 points 10 months ago

I use emacs with evil, best of both worlds

[-] AutomaticUpdates@monero.town 4 points 10 months ago

Doom Emacs gang๐Ÿ˜Ž

[-] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Ed Is The Standard Text Editor

[-] y0din@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

edlin was my favorite for a long time ๐Ÿ™‚

Edlin is a line editor, and the only text editor provided with early versions of IBM PC DOS,[1] MS-DOS and OS/2.[2] Although superseded in MS-DOS 5.0 and later by the full-screen MS-DOS Editor, and by Notepad in Microsoft Windows, it continues to be included in the 32-bit versions of current Microsoft operating systems.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edlin

edit: link and explanation of syntax used if anyone is interested. the w (write) and q (quit) commands made it somewhat similar to VI(M). https://www.computerhope.com/edlin.htm

[-] zerofk@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Finally someone mentions edlin! Real programmers donโ€™t need to see more than a single line at a time.

[-] y0din@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

that is absolutely true and also 640Kb RAM should be enough for everyone ๐Ÿ˜‚

all the hours and countless reboots spent optimizing config.sys and autoexec.bat to achieve 50kb more of available memory... good memories ๐Ÿ™‚

[-] dosuser123456@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

i just moved my files off to an external drive whenever my hdd got full haha

i didnt really trust my coding skills enough to come close to config.sys...

[-] dosuser123456@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 10 months ago

why did i never see it on my 32bit winxp then

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[-] Kojichan@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I remember using Notepad for a long time for coding in Windows. Then I was introduced to UltraEdit. It was cool, but expensive. Jumped onto NotePad++ and I've been enjoying it lots.

I do also use IDEs, usually Codium based.

[-] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Micro ftw!

(I also use Geany, Featherpad, Vim, ee(1), and JOE)

[-] RustyShackleford@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago
[-] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago
[-] FMT99@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

cat <<EOF gang

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[-] DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

NeoVim with NVchad stomps both

[-] PokerChips@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago

Then add tmux with terminal or tiling trminal and i3 amd you have the ultimate spacecraft

[-] dosuser123456@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 7 months ago

and install arch linux while youre at it lol

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 3 points 10 months ago
[-] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

I keep finding new features. Tabs. Hsplit. Plugins. Authentication prompt at save time if it detects that the user you ran it under doesn't have permission to write to that file.
And of course keybinds that make a dang lick of sense.

[-] lengau@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago
[-] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago
[-] Reptorian@programming.dev 3 points 10 months ago

I use KDE Kate for my coding. Scripting more accurately to some users, but I don't find a meaningful distinction.

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