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[-] sigmabot@crazypeople.online 21 points 1 month ago

big bang theory is about what dumb people think smart people are like.

[-] skisnow@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago

apologies for the pixels, I stole it from reddit

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[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

In my mind, I still picture this as the archetype of an office's boss inside a boss's office. If it doesn't have the 4th breaking wall picture, then it's a fake boss

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

I've watched IT Crowd half a dozen times.

I haven't managed to finish an episode of BBT before I switch it off in disgust.

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[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

For sure it's no contest. Did you see that ludicrous display last night?

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Cooper always tries to walk it in.

[-] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I've only seen the one episode of BBT, I think the first one, where a goddamn theoretical physicist spends a whole day forgetting the basic properties of light.

My family stared at me the whole time, expecting me to find it funny. Then THEY got mad at me when I said that was the dumbest shit I've seen in a while. Later I found out that Sheldon uses Ubuntu and brags about it.

But, okay, dumb jokes aside - the show doesn't explore any concepts or situations in new and interesting ways And THAT'S why it's bad.

Shelden uses linux. Hahahaha. That's it. A good writer could make a whole episode about that, alone, and it would be hilarious. Imagine him on internet forums. Imagine him fumbling during a talk because his laptop wouldn't work with whatever vidchat/system/software his hosts used, and getting haughty about it. Imagine Sheldon traveling across the country to "fix" an entire auditoriums tech to run on Arch after his failed remote speech. Walking away all "You're Welcome" as the staff can't figure out how the fuck to use it.

[-] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Funny, but now you're talking about the layman being cut out. Ratings won't survive and it dies after one season. But that would be better lol

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 7 points 1 month ago

I mean, the IT Crowd ran for 5 seasons while actually being funny to people working in the field it portrays, unlike Big Bang Theory which many nerds (not just physicists) find un-funny

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[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 10 points 1 month ago
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[-] MY_ANUS_IS_BLEEDING@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago

If BBT was made today it would be accused of being written by AI. Fully flanderised characters, and endless filler episodes.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

AKA "The Chuck Lorre Special"

[-] roserose56@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago

IT Crows was amazing, I laughed to death. Where the bigbang theory was not so funny, too much detail IMO.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

IT Crowd was three British goofballs doing elaborate running gags over 24 episodes.

BBT was four creepy bigots and a nice blonde woman doing pop culture references and calling one another stupid for 279 episodes before spinning out an 80s nostalgia prequel series.

It was the difference between a few cherished cleverly crafted comedy routines and endless derivative slop.

[-] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

No... the IT crowd is a sitcom FOR geeks. That other shit just makes fun of us

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[-] Philharmonic3@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

If I had to rate the IT crowd out of ten, I'd give it 01189998819991197253

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[-] qbus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I'll just put all the fire together

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[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The big bang theory was not for geeks or nerds. It was pure shit.

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Misogynistic pure shit.

[-] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I always felt like it was a show for moms of geeks and nerds that missed their kids once they moved out.

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[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

People be forgetting that the first season or two of the big bang theory was legitimately very good.

The first season or two of the IT crowd was... oh yeah, the whole show.

IT crowd's best episodes were best-in-class. tnetennba. But it had a lot of meh too.

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[-] mlg@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

No no IT Crowd is a show about sysadmins, not geeks lol. There's a very clear difference.

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

And Moss was a nerd not a geek. He wasn’t obsessing about comics, videogames etc. like the characters in BBT.

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[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 7 points 1 month ago

The Big Bang Theory was frustratingly bad.

[-] CluckN@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Saw a critic call it, “Nerd blackface”

[-] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 5 points 1 month ago

IT crowd is about nerds for nerds. Big Bang theory is about nerds for non nerds. "Nerd blackface" is more succinct though.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Blackface is a bit more complicated and disturbing than “pretending to be like a black person for comic effect.” I don’t think it’s appropriate to compare it to to depictions of nerd culture.

It’s what stupid people think smart people sound like. I’ve never been able to watch it, but I remember hearing Sheldon brag about Ubuntu being his favorite Linux distribution? Like, can you imagine someone saying that in a room of Linux nerds?

It’s stupid and disrespectful to geeky people, but it’s not perpetuating harmful and violent narratives.

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[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

BBT is a show about smart people for dumb people. The IT Crowd is a show about smart people.

[-] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I've always saw BBT as just a way to re-normalize making fun of neurodivergant people.

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[-] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago

By far. I think that Big Bang Theory has rotten the minds of lots of highschoolers (that now are at university, or have already graduated)

[-] vaguerant@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago

Except for that one transphobic episode that Graham Linehan has ruined his whole life over instead of going "Yeah, I'm sorry, that was a bit insensitive."

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

EDIT: since I don't want the top reply not to mention this, fuck IT Crowd creator Graham Linehan for the incalculable damage he's done to innocent trans people. He's a worthless, disgusting bigot.


Honestly, I always found that episode... Weirdly progressive? Even maybe by accident? Consider the following:

  • The trans woman April is legitimately physically attractive and with a distinctly feminine voice to match.
  • She's a legitimately very sweet, intelligent, and earnest person.
  • She tells Douglas upfront in no uncertain terms that she's trans (she phrases this as "I used to be a man", but honestly, considering both 2008 and the fact it was used to setup a joke, I think this isn't too transphobic? A trans person in 2008 might've even said this because there was less of a support network to understand that you always were a woman.)
  • Douglas gets upset because he thinks he's been tricked, but 1) he absolutely was not, and the episode makes this crystal clear that it's because April made every effort and he's just an absolute dumbass, and 2) Douglas has been portrayed in the show to this point as nothing but a juvenile, overdramatic, chauvanistic sack of shit, and we're clearly not supposed to be rooting for him.
  • She's a fantastic girlfriend and becomes the love of his life. A big part of this is because she has a duality between traditional femininity and an interest in traditionally masculine activities, but I also don't think this is terrible representation? I have a trans woman friend who carries herself in a traditionally feminine way but hasn't dropped more traditionally masculine activities that she grew up enjoying.
  • She throws the first hit at the end, but this is after Douglas dumps her on the spot after they've hit it off, had sex, and confessed their love for each other because he was too stupid to listen, he tells her to get lost, he basically calls her gross to her face by talking in a disgusted tone about "that operation you had", and flat-out denies her existence as a woman.
  • It's made very evident that if Douglas weren't transphobic, he could've lived the rest of his life with a woman who's established to be literally perfect for him.
[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

100% agree. It paints trans women favorably and makes Douglas the asshole like he deserves.

[-] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

I'm a ciswoman and I actually love April's ass-kicking. I'm sure it was meant to be a dig at her femininity but it's the first time in media where I felt like, yes. This is exactly how I want my gender displayed.

And her actress was gorgeous.

[-] purpleprophy@feddit.uk 4 points 1 month ago

Douglas ruined a great relationship because he just couldn't stop himself being a transphobic bigot. Pity Glinner didn't learn any lessons from his creation.

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