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[-] Unknown1234_5@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
  1. Why does everyone have beef with lemmy.ml
  2. Why don't you just block the instance

Edit: thank you for real responses, got so used to be people getting pissed for no reason on social media that I was genuinely surprised to check Lemmy and see a bunch of genuine answers with no butthurt to be seen

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 71 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Why does everyone have beef with lemmy.ml

The admins and mods cultivate a community of genocide denial and authoritarian apologism, which many users on the instance then buy into.

Why don’t you just block the instance

Instance blocking only blocks communities, not users, who still show up whenever there's a Chinese genocide to deny or a Russian atrocity to "WHATABOUT", or a non-Western aligned dictator to "BOTHSIDES".

My current favorite is Taliban-simping.

[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

When I accidentally blocked an instance, any comment from a user on that instance would be replaced by a message like "you have blocked this instance and so will not see this comment." I don't know if that's a feature of my client, Connect, or of lemmy itself.

[-] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 12 points 2 months ago

Should be your client.

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

Damn I’m jealous of your client! That’s a new feature to me!

[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Enjoy! At least if you're on Android. I don't know if an iOS version exists.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 months ago

You are forgetting the strong hatred for France.

[-] jkozaka@lemm.ee 25 points 2 months ago

The ml in lemmy ml means marxism-leninism, it's maintained by the lemmy devs so it has lots of "normal" users too. Some people associate lemmy.ml with "tankie" viewpoints.

[-] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Lemmy devs are tankies, especially the main maintainer

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

At least they’re more level headed than Nutomic is.

[-] socsa@piefed.social 10 points 2 months ago

Nutonic is literally a transphobe who is on record as saying that trans rights are western degeneracy

[-] Kaboom@reddthat.com 0 points 2 months ago

I wonder what Blahaj thinks of him

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago

Hexbear isn't fond of Nutomic either.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago

I wouldn't have a problem with if it wasn't for the mods

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 2 points 2 months ago

The ml in lemmy ml means marxism-leninism

It means Mali and was chosen because it was cheap/free

[-] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 months ago

You're both right!

It is Mali's domain, and Marxist-Leninists choose that domain to work out of because of the initialism.

Kinda like why BIOT's domain is so popular with the tech folks.

[-] rockerface@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

And Tuvalu's domain is popular with streaming sites

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

chosen because it was cheap

Um nah, there are a LOT of cheap ass TLDs, hell even .com TLDs are only $10-20 a YEAR

It might not actually mean marxism-leninism (then again, who the hell knows, we have .zip TLDs now ffs), but it sure does to the .ml admins

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Back 3y ago the users claimed it did mean marxist-leninist (or rather if we must be pedantic, that the TLD does mean Mali but they chose it because it meant marxist-leninist to them.) They stopped around the time of the exodus (read: they put on a mask to trap unsuspecting redditors) and they've ramped back up since everyone defederated hex and grad (my guess, those users created .ml alts specifically to proselytize to the unwilling like Evangelical roaches once their supply to feed their victim complex dried up.)

History for posterity's sake.

[-] Gerudo@lemm.ee 20 points 2 months ago

I choose not to block the instance because there is a very small group on there that have non-political discussions that I enjoy, same with hexbear.

I also don't like creating an echo chamber where all I hear is what I want to hear. Hearing from the other side, as disgusting as their viewpoints can be, at least let's me know how they think.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 11 points 2 months ago

I don't agree with their tankie views, but it does force me to see other views. However I usually just eyeroll and move on.

If I see racism or hate though that's an immediate block.

[-] Gerudo@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

Agreed, if it's targeted like that, you get a block.

[-] Eyedust@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

I like this view, because I have zero idea what I just walked in on. This account is just 16 days old and I'm just here to chat non-politics and doomscroll. And by 16 days old I mean like 4 because their acceptance email got sent to spam and I didn't notice it until then.

Tbh, I had no idea there were even factions or drama among the instances.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You should make an account on another instance, if you don't like the heavy hand of defederation of .world, lemmy.sdf.org is a good one and sh.itjust.works is another

There's also this community if you want to see for yourself the kind of behavior the admins and mods of .ml support, encourage and even participate in !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

[-] Eyedust@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Honestly, that's what I'm currently doing. I've always chuckled at the cleverness of the name sh.itjust.works. I started on .world, but I forgot to migrate my 2fa because I switched from Google Authenticator to an open source one on a new phone and didn't take my lemmy token for some damn reason.

I'm only switching because I'm a neutral entity online when it comes to politics and identity. I use the internet to escape that, not dive into it. I don't mind seeing it, I just move along and let people be people. I'd rather not be potentially tied to an image or faction by association; its nothing against .ml or anything.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Lemmy.ml admins will delete anything that doesn't support China or Russia, and they'll also delete anything that speaks positively of Western countries or concepts. Then they'll purge the logs so that there's no evidence that they're censoring basically everything.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I started on .ml, and left after a couple months when I realized I was the only person on the instance who wasn't a tanky fully committed to arguing with every post I see. They seem to have toned down a bit after getting defederated a couple times, but there are a lot of extremists on that instance, and they're very loud. I felt like I was in a Chinese political re-education camp half the time.

[-] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

the other side

Kremlin propaganda isn't the other side

[-] Gerudo@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

Yet propaganda is what has the US where we are today. If you understand the propaganda, you can help push back.

[-] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

Yes, like pushing back against lemmy.ml

[-] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago
  1. Lots of toxicity and bad takes.
  2. It isn't literally the entire instance.
[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

It isn't literally the entire instance.

Maybe not, but when the admins and mods are part of the problem, it becomes pervasive.

[-] Kaboom@reddthat.com -1 points 2 months ago

Yeah, Hexbear is the worst. I would say exploding heads, but they're gone now.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -5 points 2 months ago

In my experience it is pretty much the entire instance. All the sane people moved to other places.

[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago

Why does everyone have beef with lemmy.ml

Extending an invitation to peruse !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works for some context of mod behavior

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago

The mods of that community are communists. They seem to mod in good faith but keep that in mind.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 13 points 2 months ago

Their mods behave like Russian commissars. Their users go along with it.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 5 points 2 months ago

fedia.io doesn't support blocking, unfortunately 😭

[-] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 months ago

In my experience, the mods on lemmy.ml are particularly biased. Like it's okay to joke about American school shootings but not about abortions biased. But after a while I just stopped posting there. (I barely post to lemmy at all now, but that's another story.)

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago

I'm pretty sure making jokes about shootings is worse that jokes about abortions.

Honestly they are both inappropriate

[-] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Reasonable people can disagree about the rules, the point is the mods are inconsistent.

(But seriously, do you really want to say one is worse than the other?)

[-] JaymesRS@literature.cafe -1 points 2 months ago

Your comment has been removed for including carnist hate words. We don’t use words that glorify murder like the “b” word.

[-] Unknown1234_5@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago
[-] butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

They're making a shitty "HAHA VEGANS DUMB" joke like it's 2010.

[-] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 6 points 2 months ago

Nah, one of my kids are vegetarian and I cook to support them. I have no issues with vegans. I see how it came across that way though.

I suspect you must have missed the .ml vegan community drama a couple months ago. Take every bad stereotype about vegans and ramp it to 11. Everything was in bad faith. It bled into a couple different communities.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Ah makes sense, gotta put the /s when making references like that

[-] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 1 points 2 months ago

That would have been better in hindsight.

[-] butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Ohhhhh I actually did miss that completely, my bad.

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Tbf, guess what the comms I got banned from are, and guess why? Vegan subs, "carnist propaganda."

I'm just saying, don't make a post bemoaning "why do people hate vegans" and then ban the guy saying "because they often behave like evangelical christians." I got kicked out of church for much the same reason, ironically.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago

Lemmy.ml is admin'd and moderated mostly by Marxists, and the liberal side of Lemmy is hostile to that. That's the principle contradiction, everything else stems from that core issue.

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