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Shart Souls (hexbear.net)
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[-] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 7 months ago

I wonder how they internally rationalise their way of handling NPC questlines. I really dislike it because I almost never replay games in succession so if I miss something I cannot come across it until the next year or so when I possibly replay the game. Without a guide you are relying on either pure luck or obsessively scouring every nook and cranny both of which feel terrible. Worst part is when you miss out on boss fights because of this design.

It was somewhat bearable in Dark Souls but using the same system in Elden Ring means you are having to turn The Lands Between (huge tract of land) upside down to find a given NPC. It just feels like shit even after they added the map markers because I don't know if they can preemptively tell you where they are. I missed out of pretty much the whole story of the DLC because I was on autopilot and ended up killing Miquella's groupies.

[-] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago

The game is made to be sadistic. It is supposed to inspire feeling of loss and guilt. But then also randomly you will have cool experiences no one else understands. It is very artistic. Which is usually not what people want form video games

[-] peppersky@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago

the game is not supposed to be sadistic, that's a ridiculous and wrong claim, but if videogames want to be art they need to let the player miss stuff. the greatest thing about from games is being able to feel lost.

[-] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

It would normally. However miazki has made some statements about his love for poision swamps and giant women with out shoes. The vibes are informed by a specific kidna of masochism that lots of other games are not.

[-] peppersky@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

This got me thinking: Masochism isn't really the opposite of sadism, right? Even if it was, putting the player in a masochistic position doesn't make the game or the devs sadistic. Much to think about.

[-] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

I would call it the complement. Not the opposite but the same with an opposed chirality.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago

miazki has made some statements about his love for poision swamps

Welp, that explains Dark souls 3

[-] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 1 points 7 months ago

Yeah, everything makes more and more sense when considered in totality unfortunately

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

The games suck because the designer likes bad parts of games and has a fetish which means the games are good!

[-] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

The games are good because a third bar makes all the regular gaming stuff more intresting. The game is artistic because it is about two nonbodies fighting over nothing in the middle of nowhere.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago

Souls fans will really interpret every flaw as a genius artistic flourish.

[-] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago

I didn't say that. I am saying we get poision swamps with big shoeless women in them for gooner reasons.

[-] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago

"the game is so good. it's meant to traumatize you. afterwards you should need therapy. you WILL be trauma bonded with other fans. you WILL jump when people tap you on the shoulder in public. you WILL be on at 3 three neurotropic medications god what i wouldn't give to play it for the first time again."

this is what souls fans sound like. i feel like yall are parodying yourselves at this point. no i have never played one of these nonsense games and never will

[-] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago

I didn't say that was good. It is a intresting game flavor to have a disempowerment fantasy as opposed to the classic power fantasy. So that is good to exist in the gaming discourse

[-] Murple_27@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I mean I was already doing all of those things, so like, SoulsBorne games just feel like home for me.

[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 13 points 7 months ago

I think part of it is trying to recreate the feeling of secret shit in games from the pre-internet era, but that just works a lot better with a shorter game tbh

[-] Wheaties@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They keep trying to do more with NPC questlines, like actually direct the player or have them interact in anything more than dialog. It never gets finished, and winds up as cut content for data miners to find. Apparently there was a lady who was supposed to make it easier to find the mimic tear? I think?

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