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Trump’s invasion of Greenland would be ‘the shortest war in the world’
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I wonder if the US will just straight up start annexing it's allies
It would be hilarious if Greenland got senate seats
I can confidently say the imperial expansion will not include expansion of the franchise
whoops, all Puerto Ricos
I swear to god if I see one more post about how annexing greenland would be sooooooooo stupid because then their democratic representatives would all vote for the socialized healthcare and leftist policies they're used to since they're part of Denmark I'm going to become the fucking joker. The layers on it!
They are white and have money. We haven't tried colonizing one of those in a while. I don't think we are up to the challenge
Sorry are you talking about Greenland or metropolitan Denmark?
Edit: To be clear, Greenland is about 90% Kalaallit — you know, Inuit, one of the main Indigenous groups of far northern America, including in Alaska where the local Inuit group is the Iñupiat people. Greenland has historically struggled from comparatively high poverty, unemployment, and alcoholism, as a result of Danish colonialism, and today remains the single most suicidal country in the world.
Well, turns out I didn't know what I was talking about.
I have to wonder how many other people on this site just assume Greenland is "rich and white", because they've never actually bothered to look into the country and just think "all Nordic countries are basically the same". I've definitely seen a few other comments about Greenland in the past few days that made me raise an eyebrow. I really can't imagine many people would find it particularly funny if the USA illegally annexed one of the continent's last remaining Indigenous-majority regions explicitly for the purposes of resource extraction, literally in the midst of an official investigation into a 1960s attempted genocide of the said Natives by their current colonial master.
Greenland's current prime minister has called for the island's independence, and the correct stance on the Greenland issue is to support this proposal firmly and unequivocally.
Edit: Obligatory quotation from our favorite Chairman:
Good Mao quote. I should get that tattooed across the inside of my eyelids.
This is probably rude to say, but I frankly expected that you of all people would've known better. In hindsight I don't know why I'd think Greenland being Inuit country was common knowledge, but I still find it very bizarre and shameful that so many people here would apparently have such a total misconception of the basic character of a country currently appearing in daily headlines.
There, there. You're still very good and I always look forward to seeing you in the chats. Everyone has some blind spot or another in their knowledge.
I appreciate your misplaced optimism towards us. Would you happen to know a good thing to read about the actual state of Greenland we could investigate?
Well, I read earlier today a linguistics article called "Spatial Deixis and the Demonstrative System of Kalaallisut", which might be worth mentioning, since it goes into a lot of the basics of Greenland's history and present situation, and explains how these fit in with the historical and current evolution of the Greenlandic language itself.
Otherwise I can highly recommend a YouTube video, "How Denmark Destroyed Greenland: Brief History of Denmark's Colonialism in Greenland", which I think is a well-sourced and well-made primer on the basics — in fact it's already been shared twice before on Hexbear and once on Lemmygrad.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Yeah, in my head it was just just other Iceland. In retrospect I can't recall ever hearing anything about the area specifically. I think something about vikings setting up there in gradeschool then nothing more
Yes, Vikings did settle Greenland way back when, but these Norse settlers basically lost contact with Europe and all died out after a while. That's incidentally why the island ended up getting colonized again starting in the 18th century: since the Greenland Norse had submitted to the King of Norway, Denmark-Norway continued to claim Greenland despite no European having actually seen the island for several hundred years — and eventually Denmark-Norway decided that, since the Greenland Norse were surely still Catholics, that they should send out an expedition to convert the island's Norsemen to Protestantism.
...However, once the Dano-Norwegian expedition actually arrived to the island, they found that the only people living there both looked and sounded very different from how they'd expected, and hadn't even heard of the Pope. But not to let the people they were actually looking for starving to death ruin an otherwise good expedition, Denmark-Norway quickly started trading with these new Inuit people, and converting them to Christianity, and the rest is history.
Another incidental fact: since the Greenland Norse had submitted to the King of Norway, and the transfer of Greenland from the King of Norway to the King of Denmark was never really clearly legally established, Norway would actually end up claiming a stretch of eastern Greenland's coast from 1930-1933, calling it "Erik the Red's Land" after the Viking who founded Greenland's first Norse settlement. The Permanent Court of International Justice ruled that Norway's claim to any part of Greenland was legally invalid, and this was one of the PCIJ's highest-profile cases.
Greenland?????????????
That was how I had understood the situation till just moments ago.
most educated white person
Knowing two facts about Greenland I am probbaly in like the 80th percentile of Americans. So you might actually be right
TBF, Greenland was not in any way a relevant matter to the average American until like a week ago.
much like Ukraine prior to 2022
the Ukraine*
yes plenty of that too
Sweden, Norway, and Finland did something similar with their own Sami populations, but yes it is more common knowledge in europe, that greenland isnt "like iceland".
For fucks sake
Eagerly waiting for a new Social War in the new Roman Empire.
Greenland has like 50k inhabitants. It will be a territory until american settlers turn it into a mini-alaska.
[Norway declares independence after 277 years of Danish rule, Sweden immediately invades] "God dammit!"
[Norway declares independence after 91 years of Swedish rule, Germany invades 35 years later] "Not again!"
[Norway liberated after 5 years of German occupation, USA invades 80 years later] "WHY DOES THIS KEEP HAPPENING?!?!"
I want the US to invade Norway
It would be so fucking funny
I want based Norwegian guerillas on skis sniping yanks in the mountains.
I'll see to it.
I am incidentally an American in Norway, and I've always been very firmly opposed to the US military presence in this country. Which probably means I'd be among the very first people the Yankee occupying forces would execute if they were to formalize their occupation.
If I survive, however, rest assured that my partisan brigade would gladly take in any of my drafted cousins who wish to desert their posts. It would probably be the most effective force fighting the Yankees, too. It would be named after my communist great-granddad who derailed an enemy train the last time a fascist settler-colonial state invaded the Weathered North.
They already host one of the major nato naval bases in europe, their sovereignty is a sham.
Norway should appreciate Svalbard while they still can.