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Dude is just arguing semantics, that “propaganda” necessarily has to be a misleading message in favor of its sender.
Of course, tailoring of information by omission is also propaganda.
My point is that propaganda is not necessarily evil. I dislike propaganda from the CCP as much as the next non-tankie. But claiming "this platform is spreading propaganda, therefore evil" is ignorant as best and condoning the other imperialist propaganda at worst.
Know it's from China and don't believe anything Tiktok says on the CCP. Done.
I happen to like the Palestine propaganda on Tiktok and dislike the imperial core censoring dissidents, that's all.
Sounds a lot more like 'denying propaganda is being pushed'
Propaganda can be for good or bad. But acknowledging that it is propaganda is a necessary first step in either case for any citizen worth the name, whether a citizen of a nation or the world.
Yeah, you can just ignore the point I'm trying to make, I guess. /s 🙄
spoiler
"Propaganda from the CCP is not a good thing""It's not propaganda."
"It literally is."
"It's not."
"It literally is, and here are the receipts."
"It's not."
"This is the line in the receipt where it clearly states it is."
"Well, my point is that propaganda is not necessarily evil."
"Good or evil, it's a prerequisite for anyone with pretensions to politics beyond a tribal or gut instinct to recognize that something is propaganda."
"You're missing my point."
Please. Show me where this summary is wrong. Show me the point I missed.
This comment summarized my point.
But you don't care about that. You want a receipt for "winning the argument".
The comment I quoted and responded to, yes.
What is the point I supposedly missed?
The point where I didn't deny propaganda being pushed in that comment.
But this entire conversation sprouted from you explicitly denying propaganda being pushed. Saying "My point isn't that it's not propaganda" when every previous comment was about you denying it's propaganda rings very hollow.
Denying is different than not knowing. 🙄
Edit: and you keep on focusing on that bit, even after I've made my point clear of what's important to me.
... then you admit you were knowingly and outright lying?
That's... that's worse than what I was accusing you of.
Umm. No, the exact opposite, o.O
When's its not evil it's call advertising, and that's still fucking evil.
No, it's the other way around: Propaganda is trying to influence one's political beliefs. Most news is propaganda, political memes are propaganda, "go vote!" signs are propaganda, uncle Sam is from propaganda, etc.
I'm talking about the neutral definition. From Wikipedia:
Sure buddy happy starday and have fun at work lunar day tomorrow.
Well, if Wikipedia is wrong for you, then ok, I guess?
Maybe it's more of your propaganda?