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I think we're about to get a crash in 5 hours folks

The companies known as the Magnificent Seven make up over 20% of the global stock market. And a lot of this is based on their perceived advantage when it comes to artificial intelligence (AI).

The big US tech firms hold all the aces when it comes to cash and computing power. But DeepSeek – a Chinese AI lab – seems to be showing this isn’t the advantage investors once thought it was.

DeepSeek doesn’t have access to the most advanced chips from Nvidia (NASDAQ:NVDA). Despite this, it has built a reasoning model that is outperforming its US counterparts – at a fraction of the cost.

Investors might be wondering about how seriously to take this. But Microsoft (NASDAQ:MSFT) CEO Satya Nadella is treating DeepSeek as the real deal at the World Economic Forum in Davos:

“It’s super impressive how effectively they’ve built a compute-efficient, open-source model. Developments like DeepSeek’s should be taken very seriously.”

Whatever happens with share prices, I think investors should take one thing away from the emergence of DeepSeek. When it comes to AI, competitive advantages just aren’t as robust as they might initially look.

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[-] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 30 points 4 days ago

Even if Chinese models were banned, and Chinese cloud services for running models remotely were banned, the episode shows that the vast VC money spent on AI firms was wasteful. Since most AI firms are dependent on investment to cover overhead, a threat to those VC cashflows would prove ill to the companies' stock prices regardless of access/pratical impact of Deepseek R1.

[-] gwysibo@hexbear.net 23 points 4 days ago

IDK how you would even 'ban' DeepSeek V3 anyway, shit is open-source including all weights and training data

[-] Yeller_king@reddthat.com 0 points 4 days ago

Well, I said we'd ban Chinese services not the model. Obviously, you can download the model. I've already done that. But even when run locally it is heavily censored. The new version of the model would require beefy hardware to run. Most consumers will need services to make the models useful. Just the model isn't enough.

So, we'd need a western version of this model to be trained and then run by some tech company before it makes a splash IMO.

[-] REgon@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago

"heavily censored" lmao. It's much easier to dance with than the ChatGPT one.

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