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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by pooh@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

Just saying. How're yall doing, by the way?

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[-] IceWallowCum@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Hello!

essentially the authoritarian version of the left; instead of being the more moderate-ish(?) leftists/communists.

This distinction comes from a false problem posed by capitalists - liberals and conservatives alike. It is completely ideological and not real.

Every relation of property requires force/violence to be maintained. When you have to determine who gets what in a society, the distinction between getting /not getting or having/not having is supported by violence or the threat of it, in whatever form it may take in a specific society.

Thus, every single form of society that is based on relations of property is maintained by force and violence. That includes modern western states, drug cartels, and even early socialism. The difference between capitalism (dictatorship of the bourgeoisie) and early socialism (dictatorship of the proletariat) is which class uses violence against which other class in order to control property.

This considered, it is impossible to have any sort of society (one without absolute abundance, that is) that is not based on force or violence. Pointing this out to capitalists gets you called a tankie because they would be on the side of "not having", not because they abhor violence, as we already established their society is also based on violence.

Think of it this way and you'll see most political discussions, specially ones about violence, boil down to property.

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