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a lot of the really hardline nazis have hated him for awhile, because he isn't actually one of them. he's a self-serving capitalist who's racist enough to court many fascists but he's not ideologically committed to any broader political aims. he doesn't really give a shit about advancing "the white race" and he has a Jewish members of his cabinet (one of whom is his son-in-law) supports Israel etc.
and order of nine angles aren't like, your typical run-of-the-mill fascists. it's a Satanic pedophile death cult
The further they are into groups like O9A, 764, etc., the more I feel it's less about fascism, but edginess in itself. Nazism has powerful transgressive symbolism that they gravitate towards, and I'm confident most have no actual belief in any Nazi policy, just drawing swastikas to invoke the idea of 'pure evil' that Nazism represents in Western media (for good reason). You can get a free news article by drawing a swastika on a wall, so why wouldn't ultra-edgelords leech off that?
In a way, I'm very happy they generally don't adopt figures like Stalin, who hold a similar place in Western media ('mass murderer', 'genocidal', etc.).
If Stalin memes were to become newsworthy as opposed to censored, they would 100% adopt him. And that is because they are basically purely media reactionary nihilists. They only care about the exercise of power, and do not care who they are exerting power over or what actually happens. The more mentally ill children they can convince to self-harm or commit murder the more they think of themselves as smarter than everyone in society, which they would think while calling themselves 'removed'. Genuinely sick people.
In russia its more common for nazis to both be fash and love stalin. Although there is the balkanize russia and make it part of the EU/Ukraine variant as well.