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[-] FrankMaleir@lemmy.world 272 points 6 months ago
[-] TommySoda@lemmy.world 299 points 6 months ago

They are literally pumping and dumping the stock market as a whole. It's market manipulation by tariff as they make bank on peoples fear.

[-] witchybitchy@lemm.ee 149 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

announce tariffs > market uncertainty > sell off stocks > value goes down > buy the dip > pause tariffs > markets recover > laugh all the way to the bank

or something like that

[-] MelonYellow@lemmy.ca 55 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That, plus you can short stocks without even holding any

[-] djsp@feddit.org 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Not to speak of options. With how high volatility got, writing puts must have made bank, and, despite that high volatility, buying calls must have too.

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[-] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 43 points 6 months ago
[-] Trex202@lemmy.world 50 points 6 months ago

This isn't really Pump and Dump though, it's more like "Dip and Rip"

[-] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago

Began it has, the war on greed.

[-] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Two rules. Only buy. No sell.

[-] peregrin5@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

That's what I did. I rebalanced my stock allocation from 50% to 80% and put a few thousand more in the market.

[-] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

General known info would be that lump sum beats DCA 2 out of 3 times. Well, we're after a crash. So I just am pumping everything into it.

Into European stock tho, not touching crazy.

But for anyone reading this: keep an emergency buffer of 6 months on your savings account. Your choice if that's 6 months expenses or 6 months income.

If you get fired, you have unemployment benefits, if you get sick you get sick pay.

We have the ability to seek a bit more risk in our private lives.

[-] peregrin5@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I hedge my bets and do both. I deposit a regular amount regardless of what happens but will throw in a bit extra when it's clear there is a dip. I prefer the international ETFs also. Can't go wrong being more diversified.

Double recommend the emergency fund. I have 6 months income but with the current volatility and that fact that I live in this American shit hole, I may want to start contributing more to it to get 9 months at least. But since I have 6 months already I'm fine with not missing this opportunity to buy the dip.

I only wish I had waited a week to make my yearly IRA contribution. I generally do a lump sum for that since I just max out the contribution for the year with my bonus mainly because it's easier to keep track of. This event makes me want to rethink that strategy since I missed the dip on that by a week. It probably doesn't matter that much though since I can't touch my IRAs for around 30 years anywho.

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[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

These swings are good opportunities to harvest losses if they cause any and you can move into something else that's similar.

Like from a Blackrock 80/20 fund to a fidelity 80/20 fund or whatever it would be.

Minimal risk but you can still realize a loss.

I was going to do that until he of course undid it today. My timing was off unfortunately.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

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[-] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

Bought lu908500753 at 221 each for 84 pieces.

Let's see what happens today

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 91 points 6 months ago

Chaos. And it's intentional. It makes the US vulnerable.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's not intentional...

His first term had people managing him and stopping him from doing this shit.

This term is all people egging him on

He thought countries would rush to negotiate, instead they called his bluff. So now he's vaugely saying "everyone" has been negotiating so he's pausing everyone but China.

He wants every country to think they're the only one not negotiating, when really no one is.

trump isn't that hard to predict. 80s sleazy business practices are way more likely than some convoluted scheme to crash everything.

Putin wants him to, and trump is gonna do it. But at no point will trump be crashing the US economy intentionally, he's genuinely doing his best right now.

And that's way fucking scarier

Quick edit:

Even this 90 day pause, it's almost certainly just because they saw the bounce from that fake tweet, and knew it would at least cause another bump if they really did it

They're fucking idiots with no clue what they're doing.

At this point, I am convinced it's a pump and dump scheme, still ongoing, too. It only takes a few people in the know of when and where the news break about the tariff supsension, to seriously make a killing on the market, on the backs of others. Trumpists can now also (for a while) feel like their God has saved them again and never steered them wrong, or curse their momemts of doubt, when they did not buy yesterday, as their prophet called for.

It is a mixture of incompetence, impulsivity, but I am certain at this point, a huge chunk of it is outright corruption and cult tactics.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 49 points 6 months ago

I honestly believe it is intentional as well. The 90 pause that went around social media the other day wasn't a mistake it was a leak.

They'd be stupid to not be financially gaining from their intentional manipulation. We hired an entire administration of grifters, what else should we expect?

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

He literally announced on Truth Social now is time to buy right before he announced the change.

There’s no arguing about it. The intent is to manipulate the market to make his friends rich.

[-] Eril@feddit.org 12 points 6 months ago

Any bets that it will take less than 90 days before we get the next tariff circus?

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I feel like it's just going to be round 1 of Canada and Mexico all over again. The pause for them didn't make a difference. He said "let's make a deal", Canada and Mexico made a deal, and then 30 days later the tariffs began regardless.

No one is making deals this time because everyone knows they won't affect the outcome. What is affecting the outcome is making threats. So either he just stubbornly waits it out, getting nothing in return before they happen anyways, or he chickens out and walks it all back.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago

You say that like the first one isn't still happening.

[-] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

And there's only a neutered SEC left to investigate.

[-] Zorg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

2+ million shares of SPY were traded in 3-4 minutes an hour before it broke. Had been pretty much flat since opening for the day. It's fucking blatant.

2+ million shares of SPY were traded in 3-4 minutes an hour before it broke. Had been pretty much flat since opening for the day.

[-] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 46 points 6 months ago

Wtf is going on

A psychopathic criminal regime has taken over the US.

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago

And by and large the electorate is fine with it

[-] javacafe01@lemmy.sdf.org 37 points 6 months ago

They're openly doing insider trading

[-] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 26 points 6 months ago
[-] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 6 months ago

Government by a delusional malignant idiot clown.

An entire administration of delusional malignant idiot clowns in fact...

[-] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago
[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

The US is a clown country, no more pretending otherwise.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

He's a demented rapist who should be nowhere near government.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago

End stage capitalism

[-] Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 6 points 6 months ago

Trump told his friends to short their stocks, announced tarifs to crash the economy, they all made tons of money.

Had everyone buy low, announced pause on tarifs, made tons of money again.

I really hope its that way, and not just trump being batshit crazy and having no idea or plan what to do.

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 4 points 6 months ago

They wanted to extort other countries but they are too stupid to execute something like this. They used ChatGPT and fake experts to come up with this 'plan' and it failed. Now they are bailing. In couple of days they will start droning Mexico or Israel will start another ground invasion somewhere to cover this fuckup with another one.

[-] nuko147@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

I guess the strategy of USA is based on D20 dices. That would be my best guess.

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I think we all know Trump can’t use a dice any larger than a D6 without severe confusion. Hell, might have to scale that back to a coin flip.

[-] DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

South Park already explained how the US government determines economic policy...

https://youtu.be/dvYvQeNeq3A

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[-] makyo@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Pure idiotic fuckery is what's going on and the idea of a market rebound is hilarious to me because even without global tariffs there are plenty of other things he can do and IS doing to create instability in the USA. He's gotta go, the sooner the better.

[-] Matriks404@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

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