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submitted 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) by SeasonalDepressionEnjoyer@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

Exactly what the title says, Christianity in all its various strains still stems from the horrendous old testament, and with all the awful shit that endorses, as well as with things like Calvinism and the general doomsday cult foundations in the religion, why do some people still act so charitably towards it? Christianity has proven itself to be a morally corrupt and oppressive institution at every turn. Or maybe I'm just too negative? edgeworth-shrug

EDIT Ok guys I get it this was rather reductionist, and I definitely was disregarding all the good that religious folks have done, and that religion has inspired people to do, but again over correcting into enthusiastic support for religion can also be problematic.

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[-] Terrarium@hexbear.net 16 points 6 days ago

I would recommend thinking about it this way: whenever a comrade is "wrong" about something, literally anything, how much do you make it your business to "correct" them?

When it comes to socialism and organizing, the answer must always be, "to the extent it improves the organization or helps them personally". A sign of a dysfunctional social space is that people are constantly getting in each others' business for no reason other than that they are "wrong" about something. Dysfunctional socialist spaces will even dress this up in left language and (ironically enough), for example, say it causes disunity for a member to be dating a liberal. Of course, the disunity comes from the org trying to control a member's romantic life.

In this scenario, what is the existence of socialist Christians here actually doing to disrupt you or others? Are there certain problematic posts that inspired your question or did you just see "Christian" and start attacking? Are there a bunch of Calvinists in there doing Calvinism to us? Do you think you might actually be the source of disruption in thus scenario?

An odd amount of people went to bat for the Papacy as an institution in the various threads over the Pope's thread. Just made me think about this, but it wasn't exactly warranted outside of that.

[-] Terrarium@hexbear.net 12 points 6 days ago

The only examples I've seen of this are people saying it's antisocial and counterproductive behavior to crab dance this pope's death. It definitely is antisocial, it's only something a small group would enjoy and most would be very alienated by it.

This is just a fact of what it is. For some it makes sense to embrace the antisocial, often creating and preferring a new in-group. Unfortunately this tends to mean cloistering oneself and failing to actually build anything, and adopting habits that prevent it.

This forum's name was originally from a podcast by not-particularly-funny white guys in New York. They have not actually built anything. They are not of an organization. They don't mobilize anyone to do anything. They make snarky jokes poking fun at the liberal political establishment and electoral politics and are increasingly irrelevant. That is the inevitable trajectory of seeking conflict and infighting and being eagerly disrespectful to your comrades.

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