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afaik all the KP hate over this is misogyny in action.
Contributions of many women scientists are being wiped from NASA's website and records due to the "purge of DEI" going on right now. I'm sure that there are women losing their jobs at NASA right now while it is being dismantled in favor of private companies.
It was an egregious expenditure of wealth that enriches a company belonging to Jeff fucking Bezos.
This launch was nothing groundbreaking. It didn't push any scientific or "hardware" boundaries or make any discoveries. No experiments were done. Not even launching a sattelite, sending resources to/from ISS or anything useful to humanity. It was purely done for the PR bit, nothing more.
To me, this all reads like the abysmally tone deaf celebrities singing on youtube and complaining about how hard it was for them during the start of covid lockdowns. Except now for space flight.
Actual hate may be an extreme reaction, but exhaustion (a feeling of "so what") and disgust I think is fair. And that's more than enough reason to enjoy a stupid joke like this, despite the fact that they did go through some months of training for this (making them astronauts).
Incredibly little of my feelings about this has anything to do with Katy Perry.
Sp you fell for it then? Capitalists doing capitalist things (marketing) and just because they all identified as women you can’t be critical of the obvious nonsense at play here? Grow up.
They did not reach space.
They did not pilot.
They went on a rollercoaster ride.
Remember how there have been actual all women-identifying NASA crews? That’s REAL progress in equality. Or were you not born yet?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Mercury#Astronauts
What does that link show? Women have been in space since 1963.
It effectively refutes the "They did not reach space" comment, and also indicates how no one made fun of Alan Shepherd for "not having piloted" or "went on a rollercoaster ride".
Did you read it?
Of course. The point is that this flight was nothing new or special. Especially with the makeup of the cohort of folks on it.
Stop pretending it’s anything more than what it is: marketing.
I think you completely misunderstand my original post. The trip is a non-story. The KP hate is still misogynistic.
Hate of her (and king, etc) comes from her pushing this idea that she is special. That’s. The. Point.
They are 100000% not special. Just rich.
Nah, it's just misogyny. Compare with the reactions to when Shatner went to space (no one claiming it wasn't space then) and also had a huge emotional reaction coming back to earth.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/oct/13/william-shatner-jeff-bezos-rocket-blue-origin
My reaction was just the same. It’s all rich people nonsense.
katy perry hate has come in waves:
I don't HATE her but I'm about as sick of seeing her as Jimmy Fallon. She's boring yet always in the spotlight.
I went from completely neutral to mild dislike at your second to last point. Not only is he a rapist, the album sucks. She's out of touch in a genre that caters to the youth.
FWIW I have a remix of Cali Girls on my morning playlist. Also FWIW, 3/4 of my favorite artists are women
If you have 41 minutes to spare, this rant from a theoretical physicist does a good job explaining why people react negatively to the publicity surrounding the space tourism launch.
https://youtu.be/0WtyGK7TdCs
A lot of it boils down to the fact that women have been instrumental in traditional space programs all along. Publicizing passengers on a tourism flight as if they are pushing boundaries is insulting to all the professionals who dedicated their careers to actually expanding boundaries. They aren't even the first all women crew as claimed. Valentina Vladimirovna Tereshkova flew a solo mission on Vostok 6 in 1963
The media messaging on the flight has been terrible and regressive. Complaining about that isn't misogynistic.
Agree. It's the complaining on Katy Perry I referenced. By all means criticize all of it with actual arguments.
People focus on Katy Perry as representative of the whole stunt, because she has been portrayed as the main figure all along.
They literally pulled a Katy Perry et al. Do you think that framing just happened without any input from KP and her publicists? Did Katy Perry use her ample airtime to credit all the female engineers that actually worked for years made the flight happen, or to correct notions about the flight not actually accomplishing any significant firsts? Katy Perry gladly took the center of the media spotlight, so naturally people use her image as emblematic when ridiculing the stunt. She is a vapid celebrity doing annoying celebrity messaging like "making space and science glam."
Katy Perry is an eager participant in the outrageous messaging around the flight. She earned the ridicule, not by being a woman, but by acting ridiculously.