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did she call herself an astronaut or something?
edit: apparently not, people don't like Katy Perry/women and are making things up to get angry about.
Here's a good video about it
Varyk: asks simple yes or no question
You: here's a 40 minute video explaining the whole story. It might answer your question, it might not.
Damn. Angela Collier getting downvotes? Wtf is wrong with all these people. There could not have been a more relevant and helpful response explaining the situation, especially in light of @Varyk@sh.itjust.works' rather shallow question that seemed to indicate a lack of understanding of the full context here…
Again: Varyk asked about a single aspect (whether or not Katy Perry has called herself an astronaut) and got a 40 minute video about the whole thing. No text summary or indication of whether or not the actual question would be answered, just "watch this"
Sometimes people know about the general subject already, but just need conformation on a detail.
It's very rarely good practice to answer surface level questions with links to long deep dive videos.
Even if the recipient WOULD like the full picture, an article is MUCH easier to skim or digest whenever you want to.
A video is a time commitment and 40 minutes is about 38 minutes past the maximum reasonable time to answer a quick question.
Relevant? Possibly. Helpful? For reasons explained above, nope. Not really.
You don't know that. You just assumed that it was a rhetorical question meant to end discussion rather than an honest question meant to provide context on whether or not the meme itself is fair to Katy Perry. In assuming ignorance and bad faith, you're being very unfair to Varys.
Btw, just in case they haven't found out themselves, here's an ACTUAL answer to the ACTUAL questoion:as far as I've been able to find out, she's NOT self-identified as an astronaut.
While that's not conclusive, it's more than likely that a lot of people would comment on it if she did, so someone who knows how to look not finding anything in one eighth of the runtime of that video would make it highly improbable.
It's exceedingly common for a question about one narrow thing to be an indicator of desire for knowledge about a broader topic. There was basically no reason to believe this wasn't the case here, and the incredibly rude response from both of you to a user being helpful is really not a good look.
It's MUCH more common for a question about one thing to be an indicator of desire for knowledge of just one thing.
Except for Occam's Razor and, you know, how language works.
You're the one being incredibly rude by insisting that an illogical assumption was the only possible interpretation of a straightforward question and that pointing that out is somehow bad.
If I asked you if it's raining, would you link me to a deep dive about evaporation and atmospheric pressure? Do you think that would be helpful?
No, I'm pushing back against how rude the two of you are being.
If you had just stayed silent because you weren't even involved in this, and if the other user had given a polite "thanks, but I'm already aware of this and just wanted an answer to that one question", things might have been different.
But that's not what happened. You came in guns blazing, and so did they. Ironic, considering further down the thread they also made it very clear that they don't already know the full context here.
I made one flippant but accurate comment for laughs.
You're the one who made a huge deal about it by holding your incorrect assumptions to be undeniable Truth.
Just give the windmills you're tilting at a fucking rest already.
afaik all the KP hate over this is misogyny in action.
Contributions of many women scientists are being wiped from NASA's website and records due to the "purge of DEI" going on right now. I'm sure that there are women losing their jobs at NASA right now while it is being dismantled in favor of private companies.
It was an egregious expenditure of wealth that enriches a company belonging to Jeff fucking Bezos.
This launch was nothing groundbreaking. It didn't push any scientific or "hardware" boundaries or make any discoveries. No experiments were done. Not even launching a sattelite, sending resources to/from ISS or anything useful to humanity. It was purely done for the PR bit, nothing more.
To me, this all reads like the abysmally tone deaf celebrities singing on youtube and complaining about how hard it was for them during the start of covid lockdowns. Except now for space flight.
Actual hate may be an extreme reaction, but exhaustion (a feeling of "so what") and disgust I think is fair. And that's more than enough reason to enjoy a stupid joke like this, despite the fact that they did go through some months of training for this (making them astronauts).
Incredibly little of my feelings about this has anything to do with Katy Perry.
Sp you fell for it then? Capitalists doing capitalist things (marketing) and just because they all identified as women you can’t be critical of the obvious nonsense at play here? Grow up.
They did not reach space.
They did not pilot.
They went on a rollercoaster ride.
Remember how there have been actual all women-identifying NASA crews? That’s REAL progress in equality. Or were you not born yet?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Mercury#Astronauts
What does that link show? Women have been in space since 1963.
It effectively refutes the "They did not reach space" comment, and also indicates how no one made fun of Alan Shepherd for "not having piloted" or "went on a rollercoaster ride".
Did you read it?
Of course. The point is that this flight was nothing new or special. Especially with the makeup of the cohort of folks on it.
Stop pretending it’s anything more than what it is: marketing.
I think you completely misunderstand my original post. The trip is a non-story. The KP hate is still misogynistic.
Hate of her (and king, etc) comes from her pushing this idea that she is special. That’s. The. Point.
They are 100000% not special. Just rich.
Nah, it's just misogyny. Compare with the reactions to when Shatner went to space (no one claiming it wasn't space then) and also had a huge emotional reaction coming back to earth.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/oct/13/william-shatner-jeff-bezos-rocket-blue-origin
My reaction was just the same. It’s all rich people nonsense.
katy perry hate has come in waves:
I don't HATE her but I'm about as sick of seeing her as Jimmy Fallon. She's boring yet always in the spotlight.
I went from completely neutral to mild dislike at your second to last point. Not only is he a rapist, the album sucks. She's out of touch in a genre that caters to the youth.
FWIW I have a remix of Cali Girls on my morning playlist. Also FWIW, 3/4 of my favorite artists are women
If you have 41 minutes to spare, this rant from a theoretical physicist does a good job explaining why people react negatively to the publicity surrounding the space tourism launch.
https://youtu.be/0WtyGK7TdCs
A lot of it boils down to the fact that women have been instrumental in traditional space programs all along. Publicizing passengers on a tourism flight as if they are pushing boundaries is insulting to all the professionals who dedicated their careers to actually expanding boundaries. They aren't even the first all women crew as claimed. Valentina Vladimirovna Tereshkova flew a solo mission on Vostok 6 in 1963
The media messaging on the flight has been terrible and regressive. Complaining about that isn't misogynistic.
Agree. It's the complaining on Katy Perry I referenced. By all means criticize all of it with actual arguments.
People focus on Katy Perry as representative of the whole stunt, because she has been portrayed as the main figure all along.
They literally pulled a Katy Perry et al. Do you think that framing just happened without any input from KP and her publicists? Did Katy Perry use her ample airtime to credit all the female engineers that actually worked for years made the flight happen, or to correct notions about the flight not actually accomplishing any significant firsts? Katy Perry gladly took the center of the media spotlight, so naturally people use her image as emblematic when ridiculing the stunt. She is a vapid celebrity doing annoying celebrity messaging like "making space and science glam."
Katy Perry is an eager participant in the outrageous messaging around the flight. She earned the ridicule, not by being a woman, but by acting ridiculously.