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[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 13 points 5 days ago

They weren't seeking profit so much as they were seeking leisure and security from barbarians.

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[-] XiaCobolt@hexbear.net 23 points 5 days ago

the limits to the exploitation of the feudal serf were determined by the walls of the stomach of the feudal lord - Marx

This isn't a defense of pre-capitalist ruling classes, just that material needs drove their surplus accumulation. More food, more weapons, more men, more horses, bigger house, bigger fortifications etc

Not the relentless pursuit of profit itself.

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 14 points 5 days ago

of course it isn't. i just also want leisure and security from barbarians (transphobes, landlords, etc)

[-] XiaCobolt@hexbear.net 7 points 5 days ago

Sorry I wasn't meaning your comment, the Marx on, I've had people misunderstanding it as pro feudalism.

[-] WrongOnTheInternet@hexbear.net 6 points 5 days ago

More food, more weapons, more men, more horses, bigger house, bigger fortifications etc

There is at least the idea that one could eventually have enough material needs met to relax - the profit motive has no limit

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