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[-] Lyudmila@hexbear.net 43 points 3 days ago

North Atlantic Treaty Organisation

frizz-lecture

Mr. Macron, please name an Asian country other than Russia which has shoreline on the Atlantic Ocean.

[-] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago

That hasn't been a prerequisite for a long time, countries without an Atlantic coastline might outnumber those with one in NATO at this point

[-] Lyudmila@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

frizz-actually Sure, but those countries are surrounded by countries that do have Atlantic coastline and/or sea access to the Atlantic. They're all within the geographical region identified by Article 6.

Notably Hawaii, located in Oceania and south of the Tropic of Cancer, isn't part of NATO's collective defense commitment. There are in fact zero nations in Asia that meet the requirements for NATO membership.

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago

They have been trying for a while to built a Pacific Treaty Organization and failing because no one want to be in conflict with china for no reason

[-] Lyudmila@hexbear.net 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

SEATO was a total flop, largely based around trying to prevent neocolonies from becoming independent. Unsurprisingly, nobody wanted to play ball so the French and Americans just took their ball and ran home to prevent further collapse of the paper tiger after Vietnam kicked their shit in.

Every later attempt has basically just been some random chud senator who didn't read a briefing on it going, "gee why don't we have a Pacific NATO," without reading about the Pacific NATO we already had at home.

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