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https://xcancel.com/GazaFFlotilla/status/1931706070470418675#m

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20250608-israel-orders-military-block-aid-flotilla-carrying-greta-thunberg-gaza-freedom-flotilla-coalition-madleen

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/6/4/madleen-gaza-flotilla-live-greta-thunberg-activists-to-arrive-on-june-7?update=3759913

https://xcancel.com/GazaFFlotilla/status/1931694144378007864#m

https://xcancel.com/GazaFFlotilla/status/1931692514572128639#m

The video on the tweet says that they are 24 hours from reaching Gaza and that Israel has started to jam the ships communication signals. That they are expecting to be attacked or intercepted.

The "Israel Minister of Defense" Israel Katz instructed the Israel Forces to prevent the ship from reaching Gaza.

Madleen is the ship carrying Greta Thunberg.

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[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 52 points 1 day ago

How likely is it that Greta Thunberg will be killed by a gang of Soldier of Fortune readers in the course of the next 24 hours?

[-] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 51 points 1 day ago

I think what's most likely to happen is that they'll be boarded and arrested. I still maintain that they won't kill her.

[-] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 27 points 23 hours ago

Boarded and murdered because someone "resisted". Then we spend all of our time litigating if there was any actual physical resistance.

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 30 points 23 hours ago

This is almost definitely what they'll do. They'll arrest everyone, lock them up in mild conditions for a day or two, and send them home. Israel is genocidal but they aren't stupid. Killing all these influencers isn't going to help them do more genocide so they won't bother.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 27 points 23 hours ago

(cw: SA)I wonder if the IOF has a special unit that leadership can trust not to r*pe detainees

[-] Pentacat@hexbear.net 11 points 20 hours ago

I would assume all such people have been stripped of their citizenship by now.

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 7 points 18 hours ago

If I understand your comment correctly, unfortunately Israeli citizens fucking rioted to show support for a soldier that was recently tried for such things.

[-] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 6 points 18 hours ago

I think their comment was meant to be read to imply anyone not willing to SA someone would lose idf-cool citizenship

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 4 points 17 hours ago

Ah word that makes sense

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago

We can only hope, but I do worry, you know.

[-] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago

It’ll look really bad if they kill her. Not that they haven’t done shit that looks really bad before, and they’ve proven they don’t know how to show restraint, but still.

[-] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 32 points 23 hours ago

It'd be the first time they kill someone the average Westerner has heard about

[-] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 24 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

But it's still like... I'm imagining the news tomorrow morning, in the timeline where she's killed.

"GRETA THUNBERG DEAD" news organizations will post — but they'll beat around the bush as for how exactly she lost her life, maybe they'll even find a "copspeak" way of phrasing it so that it sounds like she was actually killed by Hamas instead of Zionists, if you aren't reading too carefully. Algorithms on key social media platforms will also — Completely Mysteriously — not give the story due attention. On Facebook I expect a lot of "care" reactions or people changing their profile pictures "in solidarity". Some Zionist or climate-change-denying boomers on social media will say she "had it coming", but most people will instead just say that it's "tragic" she died. Palestinian organizations will release statements acknowledging her martyrdom, many others will talk about how Greta Thunberg impacted their lives, and how the fame she gained as a teenage girl activist is inspiring. Politicians in the West will shame the Zionist Entity and threaten sanctions, if even that, but will back out of any actual sanctions at the last minute. And soon enough, Greta Thunberg's image will be flanderized and lib-washed, and she'll simply join the canon of people who boomers will share "motivational quotes" of on Facebook.

...But it won't actually amount to much. Maybe some more attendance at protests, or some more awareness, for a time — but most of the people who only care about issues once they start killing famous Westerners, already want Greta Thunberg to drop dead. The tiny minority who will be like "I can excuse a mountain of children's corpses but I draw the line at one dead 22-year-old Swede" probably won't be the best activists, either. In any case I doubt that Thunberg getting murdered will significantly hasten the fall of Zionism, rather it'll just be one more in a long string of wretched, flashy displays of Zionism's impunity.

But I guess I'm just thinking about this recent situation with that raging queerphobe brutally killing Jonathan Joss. Because what has that act amounted to? It hasn't been very long, no, but from the reaction thus far I'm not really expecting Joss' murder to lead to any meaningful changes in San Antonio with regard to policing or the quality of life of Queer Natives. All that the reaction to Joss' murder has led to thus far, really just seems to be a whole lot of people swearing in anger, but feeling powerless and dejected to actually change anything in practice.

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 12 points 20 hours ago

I am feeling powerless and dejected and its eating me up inside. Nothing actually works and the little my org does isn't making enough impact to matter.

[-] Andrzej3K@hexbear.net 6 points 19 hours ago

I bet it does matter. We're all subject to the tides of history ultimately, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't do what good you can in the meantime.

[-] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 7 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Quantitative change leading to qualitative change, comrades 🙂‍↕️ every drop we can put into the bucket is a drop more towards it overflowing

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 3 points 14 hours ago

It's good to be reminded. It's just hard to see all of this going on while we are picketing a Anti-Abortion Center. I know it's something... I just wish we had a way to directly hinder ICE or make a more direct impact vs. general organizing.

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 8 points 22 hours ago
[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 39 points 1 day ago

She survives and becomes Punished Greta.

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 50 points 1 day ago

I know we've been handing them out like candy these past few election cycles, but I think she's shown she can be trusted with a Gundam.

[-] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 22 points 23 hours ago

Just not near Nordstream 3 ecoterrorist :ukkkraine

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 21 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Hard to say. She’s more high profile than Rachel Corrie was. Has Israel ever killed a foreigner with some level of fame? I know she’s been smeared a lot but there are many who still view her positively.

[-] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 5 points 19 hours ago

Greta’s a household name in the US, presumably in the rest of the west too. So no, I don’t think so.

[-] CeliacMcCarthy@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago

about 25% chance i think

they wont kill her, she's white

[-] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 48 points 23 hours ago

They've killed many white aid workers and journalists already.

[-] dkr567@hexbear.net 32 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

They killed Rachel Corrie (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie) who was white as a bread I just made this morning (also killing many others of course). The genocidal citizens of israel do not give a shit who they kill/exploit.

[-] BanSwitch2Buyers@hexbear.net 28 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I don't want to be mean, but fascism has a class component that overides the race/idpol component.

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