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[-] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 30 points 2 days ago

For those who don’t know, this is how some labs use rats and mice when the are uncooperative. I don’t think the intent is to hurt the mouse, just to contain it briefly.

Not saying it’s okay or not okay. Just saying why it’s like this.

[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 days ago

I’ve seen a vet do this to a rat at the vet who was very much only interested in climbing

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 1 day ago

it definitely doesn't hurt the mouse, maybe they're a bit uncomfortable but it's just all-round the best solution for everyone involved

[-] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago

Uncomfortable?!! No. I’ve had plenty of those serotonin potatoes as pets and they love tight spaces. A Sputnik-House is made for 2-3 rats.

Well, 7 can fit in there, the 8th just had the head in there.

[-] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Best solution would be to not use antiquated systems for testing for human consumption, a method that isn't even that indicative of how it would react to a human anyway.

[-] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Rats are cool for testing cancer. You feel a lump the size of a pea in the morning, call the vet, and by the time you have an appointment in the evening it’s grown to the size of a pecan.

[-] Narauko@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

You will never get human trials for anything that hasn't passed animal testing until we have lab grown human organs/organ systems, but that is a ways out and also somewhat controversial. Coning partial people or parts of people needs a lot of safeguards.

[-] wabasso@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Curious if you’re thinking of any cases where we’d need a safeguard for any parts of the body other than the brain? Like would a whole human minus the brain be OK?

I guess there’s the whole identity theft and impersonation side of things.

[-] Narauko@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

The main concerns I see are if it is actually only individual organs, and things like your rights to your own genetic code/cell lines.

[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 23 hours ago

I could easily see some corporation buying someone's intellectual property rights to their genetic code. I do recall a Supreme Court case where a company patented DNA.

[-] Narauko@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Exactly what I am talking about along with the immortalized cell lines stolen from minorities. I have no problems with people donating themselves to science or being appropriately compensated with thoroughly informed consent, the advances to science are critical. I just don't want the biomedical equivalent of OpenAI stealing IP happening to make the 0.1% even richer.