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[-] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev -4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You'd have the same issue with this on Linux, no? It isn't OS-specific.

EDIT: I meant in general. Software on Linux is also subject to the UKs temper tantrum laws, same as on Windows. The Nvidia driver is just an example, you can also just download the driver on Windows without needing their companion app.

[-] BakedCatboy@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 day ago

The official proprietary Nvidia drivers are just a regular Linux package I'm 99% sure, I have it installed on my laptop and it doesn't involve a gui app at all.

[-] ADTJ@feddit.uk 6 points 1 day ago

There is the Nvidia X Server Settings app but it's pretty barebones

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Not really it is full featured under X under Wayland some of the features are replaced by your desktops features exclusively

[-] thann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago

You dont even need an nvidia card to open the nvidia settings on linux

[-] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

In Linux you can use the open source nvidia drivers if you want

[-] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago

You don't want to, though. They're horrible. There's an insane amount of effort that would be required to reverse-engineer drivers since Nvidia is at best negligent. AMD and Intel are much better about OSS.

[-] codenul@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 days ago

been plug and play for me using Nvidia + Linux for years now. Just upgraded to a 5070ti, literally was take out old, put in the new.

[-] batmaniam@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I'm not fully a penguin, but getting there. Saw the memes, experienced it first hand in one case and was plug and play in another. It's luck of the draw.

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

There's a learning curve, sure.

There was one for Windows too, but most people don't remember the hundreds of hours of learning that they've done to become competent users of Windows.

Just jump in, don't dual boot. Having no option of giving up and booting Windows makes you motivated to learn how to use Linux.

There's a community of people who will help (while also sometimes being insufferable assholes) and the skills you learn will be more durable. You're not going to see Linux 11 come along and mandate that you buy a new computer or anything.

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

It's not luck it's pretty well defined what works

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

they are at a point where it's not even really limited by reverse engineering, but that only the nvidia-signed drivers can increase the gpu's frequencies to anything near performant.

[-] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I know. The best you can do in Linux is not use nvidia.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

That is no longer the case. The Nvidia drivers for Linux are pretty decent, these days. They're still closed source, so if that's a deal breaker for you, you'll need to buy an AMD GPU.

[-] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

The problem is not that they are bad, is that if someone makes a project that depends on the specific drivers then it will work much worse if the drivers are closed source. Wayland was unusable with nvidia drivers until recently.

[-] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

I'm not sure if the closed-source drivers have social media garbage on them at the moment, but I'm very sure that I don't trust Nvidia not to add it.

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

This is quite frankly nonsense

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

when was the last time you used windows with nvidia graphics?

[-] noodlejetski@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

NVK is very slowly getting there, from what I've read. if I remember correctly, it's still gives horrible performance (about 50%-ish of the closed source ones, I think?), but it's still miles better than "you're really better off using your integrated GPU" that noveau offered for ages.

[-] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Fair enough. I wish them well in the effort. It would be nice if Nvidia threw them a bone, though, what with all the AI money and their GPUs being used in so many Linux supercomputers and servers.

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There's a project working on making CUDA work on all (read: AMD) graphics cards. It's alpha-level, but the progress makes it look promising.

https://www.tomshardware.com/software/a-project-to-bring-cuda-to-non-nvidia-gpus-is-making-major-progress-zluda-update-now-has-two-full-time-developers-working-on-32-bit-physx-support-and-llms-amongst-other-things

Tom's Hardware links are half the size of the article ๐Ÿ˜‚

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

No you would not because you don't need to go to the website to download software to use Nvidia on Linux. Also the Nvidia driver on Linux is literally just a driver and settings package it has no online features

[-] Zetta@mander.xyz 11 points 1 day ago

The key thing is Linux is free and open source, free as In eat shit and fucking die government fucking pigs.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

aka: the only kind of freedom that matters. lol

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

I'm not aware that the Nvidia drivers for Linux require an app registration. If that were the case, I'd definitely have heard about the uproar.

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