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came here to say just this, just seeing a feed of your childs interactions at another space is fucking weird. Why goto this logging level? Isnt it just good enough of, yeah they napped well today, and they hit there head, it scared them but we got them calmed and an ice pack just in case.
I feel like this is what helicopter parenting but they have to work so this is what they want and they need to calm down, they dont even monitor the indoor air at this level and that has been shown to be a big contributor of poor mental performance then just being at day care with sun and playing with others.
We log this information for a whole host of reasons. Many parents sadly don't get the chance to speak to an educator in depth to discuss their kids day, tracking medical needs, etc. A lot of parents don't even look at this, but it's useful to have if it's ever needed.
My only complaint, and this extends to all the genuinely important paper work we have to do is that we never get enough time to be off floor to do it.
SOOO if the educator was, I dont know, forced to talk to them at pick up over the things of the day they could be more looped in to what the parents want and maybe better understand the groups role and abilities for their child. No you are right, this is better.
Lots of parents don't care.
thats so fucked.
Some parents don't have time. You knock off work, pick the kids up, and get home and prepare dinner so they can get to bed at a decent time. If you have older kids who need to get to other places, then there's another constrain. If you need to get to the shops or bank or something you have to cut some tasks out to meet your priorities.
Thats the actually fucked part
And just to be clear, you believe that this would take less time away from the other children?
with that person, no, but you can get all the info out to the parent and have an actual conversation with the people that care for your child. Like I said mgmt would be able to grab those children that need watching with those care givers talking to parents. The idea you think this is the better option is my issue. Its just parents who wanna look for others to blame yet they wouldnt spend 5 min a day to talk to the person they leave the child with.
Management can not just slot in to replace an educator.
Especially not when you have 6 rooms of adults picking their kids up after finishing work at 5.
The simple matter of fact is there is not enough time to talk to ~20 families each evening and give a summary of their kids day.
Agreed on the diaper change one, but the first half is literally what you said with a timestamp. The nap one is important because if they did or didn't nap, you can adjust what you do after
yeah but you are pulling their attention for that, logging that is time they are not dealing with children.
...do you think they aren't dealing with other children during pickups?
you would think they would have all these other workers that can cover while you talk to the parent. Also I would assume that mgmt is out and about more to help at drop off and pickup.
So the same doesn’t apply for doing logging, which takes less time?
Also, stuff gets forgotten, with a log done right away, stuff isn’t forgotten. You think as you say one person can remember the issues of 30 different kids?
How long do you think it takes to log? That would take maybe 5 seconds max unless the ui is horrendous.
And over how many children? So 30 kids 5 seconds each (lets hope they just have to click a button and not add fucking notes to each one) so like 5 min an hour just logging shit they could spend with the parent when they pick them up. God forbid its a real winner of a day and every other child is just walking into walls and tripping all over the place. I am sure they need this dumb shit added to their workload.
Most daycares don't have that sort of volume of children for it to be an issue, I'd imagine. 30 kids isn't a daycare, that's like 3 kindergarten classrooms.
I just asked a few of my friends with kids in daycare. One said (valley cali) said the daycare had like 300 - 500 kids there. Then another (Tenn, outside of Nash) She said there was 70 there when she first started with them and its more now a year later. I dont think kindergardens have like 10 in them either. to be fair those daycares do have a lot of care givers but 10:1 seem like what they are seeing.
If that daycare has 50 employees, what’s the issue? The numbers don’t matter, it’s the amount of people under one caretaker that’s the issue.
Talking with parents takes far, far, far longer than logging something on your phone or a tablet. How is this idea not just a significantly worse time-sink?
That's not even getting into the fact that things get forgotten throughout the day - you're absolutely not getting a full report while they're panicking and dealing with 20 other parents while also keeping the kids still there safe.
If they are panicking while the child is being picked up and dropped off that kind of environment might not be for them. Also the idea that you think that you interacting with the care giver/parent is a time sink is the reason why I think its dystopian, I would want them to be in full care giver mode at all times and not have to switch to logging corp slave for the few min an hour. I am sure that dumb shit is taxing on them and its just a thing for parents that will require it (god forbid those same parents actually spend any time with those people or look for other things in their childs environment that could help that need this kind of logging. ).
Yeah, I hate to break this to you, but we are living through a dystopia. Nobody can afford childcare and all childcare is understaffed
… there’s limits to how many children can be watched by a single caretaker, it’s like 7 in most jurisdictions. So while there’s 30 kids, there’s other caretakers who can watch, or their workload isn’t so bad that 30 seconds to log all kids is gonna be an issue,
You clearly have no experience with this, so why are speaking up?
Not even close to right, fed says it can be 10:1 no more then 16:1 sooo that is still minutes out of each hour. And that is if everything is running smooth and children are anything but smooth. And I am speaking up because again I think its dystopian, I would rather the person in charge of my child TALK TO ME, and we can learn what to expect and want from the relationship then them sitting on phones or tablets logging every last thing my child did. And I must point out that your math is bad, 7x5 isnt 30. If you need precision in your childcare you should strive for it in yourself.
What federal limit are you referencing? Federally funded Early Head Start classes serving students under 36 months old must have two teachers with no more than 8 children (4:1 ratio). CFR 1302.21(b)(2). Kids in diapers will probably be under 36 months.
Many states have their own requirements.
So you want the caretaker to spend 5-10 minutes chatting to you instead of spending a few seconds logging?
Who’s watching the other kids while the caretaker has all their attention on you during pickup?
Your suggestion takes more time and leaves less time to spend are taking other kids.