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How on earth did you come to the conclusion the comment you were responding to was supporting MAGA? Honestly baffling
Because it doesn't support Democrats and anything that doesn't support them must be supporting MAGA. Politics is black and white like that.
Because leftists are pushing the youth towards the right. There are way more lil Nazis then there ever have been. Y'all are the reactionary assholes that assume I have to love the DNC, quite the opposite. I can however, see reality.
In what possible way are leftists pushing youth towards the right? The opposite is happening, the left is growing rapidly. There is also a surge in the far-right, driven by the US Empire crumbling. You're baselessly accusing the left of being responsible for the right, while sitting on a high horse pretending you're the one that can see reality? Come on.
The far right seems to be winning both the culture war and the political war. This was unimaginable 15 years ago.
The right, liberals and fascists included, have always been in support of the capitalist status quo. This did not change over 15 years. What has changed is that imperialism is weakening and capitalisn is decaying. The left in the US did not do this, capitalism is inducing its own demise and the reactionaries are running to the right while leftists gain strength.
Ahh yes, the demise where it is in place in literally every country on the planet and right wing parties are gaining momentum everywhere. What are you actually talking about?
No? Capitalism is in decay, it's struggling under its own conditions. Socialist countries like the PRC are on the rise. The right-wing parties are mostly rising in Europe and the US, in other words, the imperial core. Outside the west, progressive movements are rising, such as in the Sahel States.
Genuinely curious what you mean by capitalism being in place "in literally every country." Is capitalism just "trade" to you?
If China is the kind of socialism you all are talking about, I'm good.
Why? The PRC is making rapid scientific progress in production, infrastructure, green energy development, multilateral trade, and is wildly popular among its working class for the great achievements socialism has brought them. The large firms and key industries are state run, while the secondary and light industry has diverse forms of ownership from private to cooperative to joint-stock. Already, while being only in the primary stage of socialism, they are surpassing the US Empire.
The PRC's Socialism with Chinese Characteristics is merely one form of socialism, it just happens to be the presently most advanced form of it. Other countries like Cuba have similar but different forms of socialism.
Cuba seems the best example to me. PRV is not a great place for many of it's residents, and certainly not a life I want to live.
Why do you say that the PRC isn't a great place to live, and not a life you want to live? The overwhelming majority of Chinese citizens support their system and believe it's on the correct track, they are by far the most developed socialist country presently.
You vote for a genocide and tell yourself it's because you're anti-fascist... you sure that's reality you can see?
I don't vote for a genocide. Neither party is going to fully control Israel. Allowing Trump to take office was the true worst case scenario for Gaza and it's people and that is proven more true everyday. The only reality is that more Palestinians are dead because Trump is the President and they now have no shot at any sort of future as an independent nation because Trump became President. If you didn't vote for Kamala and could have you are responsible for that but your fanatascism and lack of awareness allow you to lie to yourself. If you actually gave a shit about the people over your narrative . . .
Whichever party wins fully controls Israel. It is a client state.
You are a holocaust denier. You deny the genocide existed until your team lost power. You are exactly the same as them.
Clownish ignorance. You supported the biggest Zionist in the entire country. It's exactly here that the distinction between evil and stupid has zero relevance.
You didn't just suddenly start giving a shit about the lives of Palestinians. You're an evil piece of shit who wants to use them as political props for your nazi party now that the other nazi party is in power.
Follow your leader.
I didn't support anything I'm just not an extremist zealot so I can understand that a bad situation can get worse. Gaza was a genocide under the Dems but under Trump it will no longer exist. If you can't see that difference I truly feel very sorry for you.
'apolitical' nazi
The difference, dumbass, is that another year passed. You're a fucking moron watching Biden give ZERO resistance while the situation got worse and worse and suddenly turning around and saying that someone else is worse than him. At best you're a fucking moron. I think you're just a straight up nazi being cynical as nazis always are.
Yep and now when another year passes Gaza won't exist anymore. Allowing Trump to win was the worst thing that could have happened for the people of Gaza but you'll never acknowledge that because you're some weirdo cosplaying like you can enact some crazy change by not voting. I would be angry and lash out all of the time if I had to hide from reality like you do.
You're cosplaying as someone who didn't vote for someone actively committing genocide. You are literally a fucking nazi. It drives me fucking insane that you want to pretend you're not. You deserve consequences for what you did. You deserve what the nazis did. There's literally nothing they did that you didn't.
You supported a genocide and now you're trying to project it outward. You're the only one who deserves your toxicity. There's no one you should be trying to hurt except yourself.
As you again completely avoid the point that Donald Trump was the actual worst case scenario for Gaza. Clearly, your mind no longer functions with reality, good luck.
Because in the US not voting always favors the conservative party. Do any of you have any knowledge history?