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submitted 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) by dgerard@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems

this is Habryka talking about how his moderating skills are so powerful it takes lesswrong three fucking years to block a poster who's actively being a drain on the site

here's his reaction to sneerclub (specifically me - thanks Oliver!) calling LessOnline "wordy racist fest":

A culture of loose status-focused social connection. Fellow sneerers are not trying to build anything together. They are not relying on each other for trade, coordination or anything else. They don't need to develop protocols of communication that produce functional outcomes, they just need to have fun sneering together.

He gets us! He really gets us!

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[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 12 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

How it started: gonna build the robotgod but nice

How it went: wow we need to teach people how to think.

How it ended: we cant do basic things people have done since we decided to walk upright because some people are mean.

Even 4chan can trade/coordinate/and have functional outcomes, sure often for evil. But most of us are not even active on lw. Skill issue. If you cant beat a bunch of sneerders who are not even participating what chance do they have against the godAI (same with not being able to convince one human).

eponymous sneerlcub

Eponymous even. Guess they don't know who named sneerclub.

Some more sneering, why use make footnotes like you are actually linking to proof, it is done all over the place and it tricks me a lot 'ah they backed it up with a source' nope some random footnote which is so wordy it breaks the site on mobile.

the more likely it is that someone can get away with committing a crime, the harsher the punishment needs to be for that crime.

The death penalty of not just you but your whole family if you copy that floppy.

Now, does that mean that everyone is free to vote however they want?

The answer is a straightforward "no".

Holy shit, hahaha what are you wasting your time on...

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How would this situation play out in a world like dath ilan? A world where The Art has progressed to something much more formidable.

Yeah indeed how would they solve these problems in Ravenloft.

[-] fullsquare@awful.systems 5 points 5 hours ago

The death penalty of not just you but your whole family if you copy that floppy.

thermonuclear ballistic missile on lightcone infra for all the time and brains they have wasted

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 2 points 2 hours ago

With apologies to Stross: "you shall not copy floppies in my lightcone"

[-] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 5 points 5 hours ago

Even 4chan can trade/coordinate/and have functional outcomes, sure often for evil.

To give a rather notorious example, there's the He Will Not Divide Us flag in 2017, which the 'channers tracked down after only 38 hours, despite Shia LeBouf's attempts to keep the location hidden.

The death penalty of not just you but your whole family if you copy that floppy.

The future media conglomerates want. (okay maybe not the "death penalty" part - dead people don't make money)

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 2 points 2 hours ago

Re the flag.

Not just that, but they also on a less malicious case id4chan, and now id6chan were also 4chan productions iirc. (With others from the internet also helping). Which documents all kinds of strange warhammer lore, the /tg/ interpretation of that and their various hate for certain authors of the games. For example https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Robin_Cruddace

[-] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 1 points 55 minutes ago

The flag was the most obvious one I could think of, given how many eyes were already on HWNDU and how swiftly they found it. In retrospect, I should've chosen 1d4chan/1d6chan as my example, given how large and robust it is as a wiki.

The SCP Foundation arguably qualifies as well - it began on /x/ as a random post, before morphing into the ongoing collaborative writing project we all know and love.

[-] jonhendry@awful.systems 6 points 7 hours ago

Eponymous even. Guess they don’t know who named sneerclub.

Mister Sneerclub of the Newport Sneerclubs, of course.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 5 hours ago
[-] dgerard@awful.systems 5 points 4 hours ago
[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 2 hours ago

Only for friends, so we should call him Mister Sneerclub. Or Her Sneer if you are German and want to be informal.

[-] scruiser@awful.systems 13 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

we cant do basic things

That's giving them too much credit! They've generated the raw material for all the marketing copy and jargon pumped out by the LLM companies producing the very thing they think will doom us all! They've served a small but crucial role in the influence farming of the likes of Peter Thiel and Elon Musk. They've served as an entry point to the alt-right pipeline!

dath ilan?

As a self-certified Eliezer understander, I can tell you dath ilan would open up a micro-prediction market on various counterfactual ban durations. Somehow this prediction market would work excellently despite a lack of liquidity and multiple layers of skewed incentives that should outweigh any money going into it. Also Said would have been sent to a ~~reeducation camp~~, quiet city and ~~sterilized~~ denied UBI if he reproduces for not conforming to dath ilan's norms much earlier.

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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

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