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Who split and made another trotskyite party?
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So what organizations?
Who knows what it's all about. Best wishes to all organizers and stuff.
I clicked on the Zohran Mamdani article on the page and it goes to the website "puntorojo" and there's an ad for "Revolutionary Socialism Conference" at the bottom, which is organized by another organization called "Firebrand" (which says it formed after International Socialist Organization dissolved due to a "sexual assault coverup") as well as Socialist Horizon and International Socialist League. The number of random left-wing organizations is dizzying. And yeah the random ones I guess are all Trotskyist?
Does anyone have any good writeups with an overview of the whole "ecosystem" of weird left-wing organizations? Like you've mentioned, it's Trotskyist stuff.
DSA and PSL and whatever weird media people podcast hosts, bloggers (Yasha Levine), etc. are enough for me to try to keep track of.
One thing I gotta say is that all left-wing organizations need to work on keeping their screeds concise. Found another random affiliated org and their description is way longer than necessary https://seattlerevolutionarysocialists.org/where-we-stand . Every left-wing org's description looks like this though. You could practically generate one of these with ChatGPT.
There's like a dozen or so different post-ISO groups, I can't really keep them all straight. Instead of re-writing the same "where we stand" with minor variations, I'd like to see them all publish a paragraph or two on what their strategy is, why it requires forming yet another group, and why this won't end up as another useless struggling sect in 10 or 20 years. I would assume that most of them have given those questions a lot of thought given their history, but none ever seem to come out and say it
My question is, if they're ideologically similar enough to openly collaborate then why not merge? The whole point of democratic centralism and having a vanguard party is defeated when there's a dozen different vanguard parties.
My suspicion is they're controlled by small cliques that don't want to risk subjecting themselves to another clique. DSA is full of "post-trots" who've recognize this absurd pattern.