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Like at this point it's like pointing at a car and insisting it's just a carriage; you have literal members of the Israeli government at all levels going "we'll kill them all and drive out whatever remains", you have their news in Hebrew going "yes, we're killing them all and we'll burn them alive too", you have that SVist becoming an actual folk hero and being told on a talk show by the host that he admires him; all this and I haven't even mentioned the never ending testimonies from doctors who served there and the people who think ISIS have better morals than the IOF. There are literally no Palestinians there who are like 'nah bro, the IOF have been pretty chill actually'; oh wait no, that's not STRICTLY true, there was that guy the IOF filmed themselves giving water to, who after they were done having this human to human moment caught on camera shot him in the back and left him for his granddaughter to find.

I'm watching a Zeteo segment where Mehdi is arguing with someone about what's happening in Gaza being a genocide and like.....it is almost October 2025, enough already! I feel like I'm in the damn twilight zone! The Israeli population THEMSELVES will explain to you why they'll shoot kids too!

How are we still on this?!

Back when the oil for food program was instated against Iraq during the sanctions, the human rights coordinator to Baghdad quit his job so he could criticize it as a genocide; his replacement ALSO quit saying this was genocide; what was the UN's utterly worthless response? To quibble on the term 'genocide'!

I genuinely wish people like Mehdi and others would just make it a point on their shows that they're no longer humoring this 'it's not genocide' nonsense; enough already!

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[-] Salem@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

On good faith, perhaps there is still genocide denial and ignorance because of a lack of central authority and unified presentation that spells it out to the incurious, the ignorant, and dissident on why the genocide in Gaza is genocide. The former two categories of people, the incurious and the ignorant, need to have it spelled out to them the way an undergraduate junior in a political science class would make their in-class presentation via PowerPoint.

A large part of the mainstream Western media does not quote Israeli media, government officials, and society and that is by design. They paint genocide dissidents as fringe, as foolish youth, while the media portrays proponents as disgraced victims of anti-Semitism.

Asking Why is it a genocide is obfuscated by lies and misdirection. People do eventually ask this question but it is slowed down by the media.

On bad faith, there is genocide denial because it is in the interest and modus operandi for a genocidal state and polity to escape justice by obfuscating the reality through denial, cover-up, and media mitigation. Because it is Israel that it is perpetuating genocide, they use anti-semitism as a shield from criticism and condemnation. Because Israel is also a US proxy in the Middle East to weaken its neighbors and contain China/Russia, it will get near unconditional support from the US and Europe.

Media figures don't press against the narrative of Washington or Jerusalem because they value their career and prestige more than they do reporting the truth or exposing corruption; they are courtiers in an imperial court not journalists holding power to account. Which is why the media only shifts narrative when it is safe to do so.

I mean, the media started going against Bush when it was safe to do so but were completely compliant during most of his administration to the point they were really just publishing White House press statements as fact!

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