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Summoning the Beast of Big Pharma (mander.xyz)

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[-] Unforeseen@sh.itjust.works 29 points 5 days ago

I wonder how upset he was when he realized it wasn't a bong

[-] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

That's actually a vaporizer, this dude is one of the fathers of modern vaping, like Bob Snodgrass is the father of modern borosilicate glass bongs.

His name is Evert, he invented a glass heater for vaping weed called the Verdamper.

[-] bobo@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

More like one of the sons of modern vaping. The steam chalice predates his experiments by a few decades, and this bong looks like a direct derivative.

[-] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

That's fair, steam chalice became popular back in the 70's. I'm splitting hairs by defining modern as an electronic device whose design was copied in essence by all future makers. The steam chalice was in every stoners head back then and informed a lot of innovation.

[-] bobo@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago

I'm splitting hairs by defining modern as an electronic device whose design was copied in essence by all future makers.

The essence of every vape is to move hot air through the herb. In that regard it doesn't matter how you heat it, so the chalice beats it out.

As for the specific technology, aren't the only designs that copied it in essence volcano like bag desktops? A tiny fraction of modern devices pushes air.

Now compare that to the majority of modern vapes, from dyna and terpcicle, over ball vapes, to electric conduction and convection. All of them move the hot air by having the user draw it, just like the steam chalice.

[-] AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You make a really excellent argument! People have been in essence vaping weed via hookah and shisha for a long time. Mixing weed into your shisha doesn't result in a full combustion. The steam chalice tweaked the design to remove the shisha, but it was still in essence the design borrowed from something that's been used since antiquity. But it was still like the invention that basically every stoner in the world, let alone anyone who visited Jamaica, had in their head

The modern electronic vape movement, which arguably started in coffee shops in Amsterdam in the 90's, started introducing electronic temperature control. Which imo is what I mean when say modern vaping.

But yeah, don't disagree with you at all. I would maybe say forced air was never developed beyond volcano cause they patented it and very aggressively protect it.

[-] MunkyNutts@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago

But it is isn't it? Heat gun burning the bud up top, glass stem down from there into the water, and he's pulling in smoke.

[-] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 13 points 5 days ago

One point: That heat gun, by Steinel, heats from 120F to 1050F. Source: I have one just like it. That's not smoke, it's vapor, I'd wager. Opaque white smoke would fill the area above the liquid if it were burning, but it looks pretty 'see thru'. I think the temp is well below 454F.