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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by Andrzej3K@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

Do you know how often bourgeois democracies elect "socialists"? Hell, many of them even elect "communists" on the regular. It's normal. Get over it. Please.

EDIT - there are basically two main genres of Mamdani poster, both of which keep scrawling MAMDANI on the wall in their own excrement for different reasons, and they all seem to be assuming I am from the other side lol

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[-] Hyper_red@hexbear.net 1 points 3 weeks ago

soc dems and dem socs are the same thing, they both accomplish the same thing of keeping capitalism in place

I don't think anyone disagrees with the post I think people are annoyed its posted once a week.

people are saying people disagree with it, but I have never seen that for the two months I've been here. But I could have missed it

[-] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

soc dems and dem socs are the same thing, they both accomplish the same thing of keeping capitalism in place

True only in the first world, and only really after the early 20th century.

I don't think anyone disagrees with the post I think people are annoyed its posted once a week.

People definitely disagree, otherwise it would fall off the front page with 5 comments every time it gets posted. People who aren't interested in hearing about it would mostly just ignore it if the criticism of Mamdani didn't bother them. I'm also tired of hearing about it, as you say.

But I could have missed it

I think so. Its easy to miss threads on here. The defense of Mamdani was A LOT more obvious a few months ago, people mostly argue and defend him indirectly now because he's shown his ass so many times. However, you can tell who still likes him because they're the same people who openly defended him when he first got controversial on here.

As I have said before, for users in New York, you can have your chauvinist mayor and he can improve your life a bit. That's OK. But you should at the very least acknowledge that he's a chauvinist and accept that people hate him because of that. And those people, especially if they aren't Americans, have a right to do so.

[-] ratboy@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Just for context (I know yer comment was from hours ago), but yeah you missed a lot of this stuff having just joined in October. The primaries were in June, and there are MANY people who felt extremely passionate about the guy. Like essentially expressing that he was going to change the face of American politics. The naysayers (such as myself) first started off like "I doubt that anything will come of this, it is American electoralism after all, but if it does that will be so great! Let's see where it goes" and then we were called wreckers and ultras and shit for not being in absolute frenzied support lol. We have been straight up called ignorant and other much less nice names when actually trying to engage in good faith discourse.

So us naysayers have gotten more aggressive over it, especially since he has walked so much back without even being in office.. And I think that within the past couple of months the dogmatists have just gotten quiet because every statement or he has made has been terrible. Some people do still claim that he is doing 5D chess to take the bourgeois by surprise and kick start the revolution or whatever, though. And I think our point, rather than this ACTUALLY being aboit Mamdani, is that people who are claiming to be Marxists are throwing materialist analysis into the trashcan in order to uncritically support him. Thats worth debating IMO.

So now that you're caught up on the history of this struggle session, welcome to hexbear, wait til you see 4 year old struggle sessions get relitigated over and over and again. It's like a tradition at this point

[-] sexywheat@hexbear.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

wait til you see 4 year old struggle sessions get relitigated over and over and again

OUTDOOR CATS thurston

[-] ratboy@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

Indoor cats unless you have a Catio. Best of both worlds!

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