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Reminds me of the Greer Barnes joke about Africanized Bees, except his joke was against racism and this one appears to be for it.
Isn't this one about foreign bee species, such as honey bees, are introduced into ecosystems where they outnumber native bees? And they eat all the nectar but do a horrible job of pollinating so the situation ends up worse? Sounds like colonization, not racism.
Colonization was not specific to Europe, nor is it even relevant to it in the modern age.
If France wants to reimburse Haiti for the independence debt, it's welcome to start at any time; I'd hardly begin to say that colonialism isn't relevant – even in the modern age –, for Europe.
Haiti looks like a country to me.
You'd be correct; a country which suffered from colonialism by a European country; the effects of which continue today. Therefore, the effects of colonialism by at least one European country is still relevant.
You said colonialism by Europe isn't relevant in the modern age.
So you're claiming France currently owns Haiti?
Is there a definition of relevant that, for you, doesn't include the impacts and effects of the thing in question?
Are you going to argue to me with a straight face that the only relevant aspects we should be concerned about with colonialism is whether ownership is current and active?
Now you're asking me how I might agree that not having any colonies can still count as colonization?
If you strip the land of resources when you owned it such that people can no longer use it, your colonization of that land – while in the past – is still relevant to the people now trying to eke out an existence on that land.
Playing prescriptivist with definitions isn't going to absolve Europe of the still ongoing effects that their colonization has caused.
Also…Europe still has colonies/territories (https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1er0god/european_overseas_territories_outside_europe/); so your entire argument doesn't even hold up, to begin with. Europe's still colonizing.
It's interesting that you spent so much time defending your racism rather than trying to dismiss the allegation.
Europe's a race, now?
My only response was that you statement that Europe's history of colonization (which, again, isn't even true as Europe still has colonies) is still relevant as the effects of that colonization is still present today.
Something you haven't refuted or even contested; how is acknowledging history racist?
Now we've moved on to you saying Racism doesn't exist which makes it perfectly okay for you to say everyone from a specific continent is a pest/plague.
That would be xenophobia; not racism.
I also never said that Europeans were a pest or plague; as I said in the previous comment, "My only response was that you statement that Europe’s history of colonization is still relevant." You never alleged that I was saying that Europeans were a pest or plague (probably because I never said that) so I was never attempting to refute such a claim.
Xenophobia is Racism like Water is a Fluid.
I expect, at this point, we will just agree to disagree and there's no way we'll see eye to eye but no: it's very much not. Race is an ill-defined social construct whereas xenophobia is based on prejudice against cultural and national lines and, while those are also socially constructed, they are more concrete than the boundaries of "race".
As such, racism seeks to (and is more defined by its attempt to) construct a sense of identity against something to maintain a status quo (hence why the definition of "white" has been able to expand to include ethnicity such as the Irish) to better position itself against others.
While cultures and ethnicities can certainly change over time, they're not remotely as nebulous (and made up) as race is and, thus, don't operate in that same way; people are also much more invested in cultures and ethnicities beyond reasons of maintaining hegemonic status quo so that impacts things, as well.
Did you expect to convert me to racism?
I expected (hoped?) you'd educate yourself a bit; there's a wealth of information and research and theory on this subject so it's not like you have an excuse to so wildly misuse terminology which is well-known and well-defined. Continuing to use "racism" without defining what race is is cartoonish but I did hope for more from you; I guess, at least, good faith. Oh, well.
For others who come across this thread and would like creators who sometimes cover these topics with some depth, here's some video essayists:
https://www.youtube.com/@FDSignifire
https://www.youtube.com/@olurinatti
https://www.youtube.com/@lilbilliam
https://www.youtube.com/@Princess_Weekes
https://www.youtube.com/@KatBlaque/videos
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Bro doesn't know the definition of race and thinks I'm the one who needs educating.
It's about colonialism.
It's about European Colonialism, comparing Europeans to Pests or Plagues, and I find that problematic.
Cry more. The bones of your imperial subjects could not care less about your pearl-clutching.
I don't need to be European to defend Europeans. I don't need to be African to defend Africans. I don't need to be Asian to defend Asians. It's called not being a racist asshole.
Europeans aren't a race, and absolutely deserve any and all criticisms possible regarding their several-century-long project of brutality known as 'colonialism'.
It's okay to acknowledge the sins of the past, to ask specific nations for reparations.
It's not okay to call an entire group of people based on ethnic and regional origins an invasive pest. That's the same bullshit as MAGAts mad at China harassing anyone and everyone Asian.
Depends on how you want take it.. I don't believe the commenters refer really to people, they might be more like targeting Institutions (e.g. British Museum)... It all depends on the sensibility of the reader (like many arguments on the Internet)