189
Buzz Off!
(mander.xyz)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 02 Jan 2026
189 points (96.1% liked)
Science Memes
18063 readers
1169 users here now
Welcome to c/science_memes @ Mander.xyz!
A place for majestic STEMLORD peacocking, as well as memes about the realities of working in a lab.
Rules
- Don't throw mud. Behave like an intellectual and remember the human.
- Keep it rooted (on topic).
- No spam.
- Infographics welcome, get schooled.
This is a science community. We use the Dawkins definition of meme.
Research Committee
Other Mander Communities
Science and Research
Biology and Life Sciences
- !abiogenesis@mander.xyz
- !animal-behavior@mander.xyz
- !anthropology@mander.xyz
- !arachnology@mander.xyz
- !balconygardening@slrpnk.net
- !biodiversity@mander.xyz
- !biology@mander.xyz
- !biophysics@mander.xyz
- !botany@mander.xyz
- !ecology@mander.xyz
- !entomology@mander.xyz
- !fermentation@mander.xyz
- !herpetology@mander.xyz
- !houseplants@mander.xyz
- !medicine@mander.xyz
- !microscopy@mander.xyz
- !mycology@mander.xyz
- !nudibranchs@mander.xyz
- !nutrition@mander.xyz
- !palaeoecology@mander.xyz
- !palaeontology@mander.xyz
- !photosynthesis@mander.xyz
- !plantid@mander.xyz
- !plants@mander.xyz
- !reptiles and amphibians@mander.xyz
Physical Sciences
- !astronomy@mander.xyz
- !chemistry@mander.xyz
- !earthscience@mander.xyz
- !geography@mander.xyz
- !geospatial@mander.xyz
- !nuclear@mander.xyz
- !physics@mander.xyz
- !quantum-computing@mander.xyz
- !spectroscopy@mander.xyz
Humanities and Social Sciences
Practical and Applied Sciences
- !exercise-and sports-science@mander.xyz
- !gardening@mander.xyz
- !self sufficiency@mander.xyz
- !soilscience@slrpnk.net
- !terrariums@mander.xyz
- !timelapse@mander.xyz
Memes
Miscellaneous
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
Isn't this one about foreign bee species, such as honey bees, are introduced into ecosystems where they outnumber native bees? And they eat all the nectar but do a horrible job of pollinating so the situation ends up worse? Sounds like colonization, not racism.
Colonization was not specific to Europe, nor is it even relevant to it in the modern age.
If France wants to reimburse Haiti for the independence debt, it's welcome to start at any time; I'd hardly begin to say that colonialism isn't relevant – even in the modern age –, for Europe.
Haiti looks like a country to me.
You'd be correct; a country which suffered from colonialism by a European country; the effects of which continue today. Therefore, the effects of colonialism by at least one European country is still relevant.
You said colonialism by Europe isn't relevant in the modern age.
So you're claiming France currently owns Haiti?
Is there a definition of relevant that, for you, doesn't include the impacts and effects of the thing in question?
Are you going to argue to me with a straight face that the only relevant aspects we should be concerned about with colonialism is whether ownership is current and active?
Now you're asking me how I might agree that not having any colonies can still count as colonization?
If you strip the land of resources when you owned it such that people can no longer use it, your colonization of that land – while in the past – is still relevant to the people now trying to eke out an existence on that land.
Playing prescriptivist with definitions isn't going to absolve Europe of the still ongoing effects that their colonization has caused.
Also…Europe still has colonies/territories (https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1er0god/european_overseas_territories_outside_europe/); so your entire argument doesn't even hold up, to begin with. Europe's still colonizing.
It's interesting that you spent so much time defending your racism rather than trying to dismiss the allegation.
Europe's a race, now?
My only response was that you statement that Europe's history of colonization (which, again, isn't even true as Europe still has colonies) is still relevant as the effects of that colonization is still present today.
Something you haven't refuted or even contested; how is acknowledging history racist?
Now we've moved on to you saying Racism doesn't exist which makes it perfectly okay for you to say everyone from a specific continent is a pest/plague.
That would be xenophobia; not racism.
I also never said that Europeans were a pest or plague; as I said in the previous comment, "My only response was that you statement that Europe’s history of colonization is still relevant." You never alleged that I was saying that Europeans were a pest or plague (probably because I never said that) so I was never attempting to refute such a claim.
Xenophobia is Racism like Water is a Fluid.
I expect, at this point, we will just agree to disagree and there's no way we'll see eye to eye but no: it's very much not. Race is an ill-defined social construct whereas xenophobia is based on prejudice against cultural and national lines and, while those are also socially constructed, they are more concrete than the boundaries of "race".
As such, racism seeks to (and is more defined by its attempt to) construct a sense of identity against something to maintain a status quo (hence why the definition of "white" has been able to expand to include ethnicity such as the Irish) to better position itself against others.
While cultures and ethnicities can certainly change over time, they're not remotely as nebulous (and made up) as race is and, thus, don't operate in that same way; people are also much more invested in cultures and ethnicities beyond reasons of maintaining hegemonic status quo so that impacts things, as well.
Did you expect to convert me to racism?
I expected (hoped?) you'd educate yourself a bit; there's a wealth of information and research and theory on this subject so it's not like you have an excuse to so wildly misuse terminology which is well-known and well-defined. Continuing to use "racism" without defining what race is is cartoonish but I did hope for more from you; I guess, at least, good faith. Oh, well.
For others who come across this thread and would like creators who sometimes cover these topics with some depth, here's some video essayists:
https://www.youtube.com/@FDSignifire
https://www.youtube.com/@olurinatti
https://www.youtube.com/@lilbilliam
https://www.youtube.com/@Princess_Weekes
https://www.youtube.com/@KatBlaque/videos
https://www.youtube.com/@jouelzy/videos
Bro doesn't know the definition of race and thinks I'm the one who needs educating.