view the rest of the comments
news
Welcome to c/news! Please read the Hexbear Code of Conduct and remember... we're all comrades here.
Rules:
-- PLEASE KEEP POST TITLES INFORMATIVE --
-- Overly editorialized titles, particularly if they link to opinion pieces, may get your post removed. --
-- All posts must include a link to their source. Screenshots are fine IF you include the link in the post body. --
-- If you are citing a twitter post as news please include not just the twitter.com in your links but also nitter.net (or another Nitter instance). There is also a Firefox extension that can redirect Twitter links to a Nitter instance: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/libredirect/ or archive them as you would any other reactionary source using e.g. https://archive.today . Twitter screenshots still need to be sourced or they will be removed --
-- Mass tagging comm moderators across multiple posts like a broken markov chain bot will result in a comm ban--
-- Repeated consecutive posting of reactionary sources, fake news, misleading / outdated news, false alarms over ghoul deaths, and/or shitposts will result in a comm ban.--
-- Neglecting to use content warnings or NSFW when dealing with disturbing content will be removed until in compliance. Users who are consecutively reported due to failing to use content warnings or NSFW tags when commenting on or posting disturbing content will result in the user being banned. --
-- Using April 1st as an excuse to post fake headlines, like the resurrection of Kissinger while he is still fortunately dead, will result in the poster being thrown in the gamer gulag and be sentenced to play and beat trashy mobile games like 'Raid: Shadow Legends' in order to be rehabilitated back into general society. --
This sports transphobia is mostly directed at trans girls/femme/women, right?
Are they doing this shit to AFAB people in men's sports?
Regardless all this discourse is wrapped up in misogyny too, implying that people AFAB are always going to be worse at sports.
And it doesn't take into account the general unfairness in sports. Some people are born into wealthy families who can afford to feed their kids, get them healthcare, and train them into sports.
It's all the talking points about affirmative action, just in a different font.
chess is lmao
Proving how big their brains actually are, they do transphobia to all trans people.
Oh right. I keep forgetting how many brainworms are active at once
all these hot big tiddy trans women keep distracting me and making me lose my chess game!
I moved to E4 instead of E5 cause I was
Ah, the Chaser gambit. Very situational
Lenin was a revisionist for being an avid chess player and thus a g*mer.
yes. You will notice though that the primary direction of transphobic rhetoric is aimed at trans women and not trans men. this is a result of misogyny at its core. this is part of the phenomenon of transmisogyny, the intersection of misogyny and transphobia
It is also about patriarchy in that it is seen as a problem for a man to give up his patriarchal benefits, while it is seen as a virtue for women to seek patriarchal benefits. Same reason that gay men always suffered more gay hate than lesbians, the appearance of taking on the "feminine" role is viewed as a threat to patriarchy.
Whipping Girl, by Julia Serano
Transphobia directed at transmascs is also always mysogynist in nature. Its core concepts are toxic notions of masculinity seen as unfullfillable for AFAB individuals, the maintainance of control over AFAB bodies as reproductive units and sexual objects, and the denial of agency to AFAB individuals, all due to their assigned "female" gender. Terfs routinely claim that trans men and transmasculine nonbinary people are just "confused girls" making a mistake, the entire terf discourse around the issue hinges on the concept not to let people designated as broodmares decide what to do with their uteruses because they are too emotional and irrational to make choices for themselves. It doesn't get more mysogynist than that, which is ironic when the target of the mysogyny are men, but that's bio-essentialism for you. When you want to see how fully seperated any and all terfs have become from the feminist roots at least some of them used to have, how deeply and utterly mysogynist they have become, ask them about trans dudes.
“Gay = Feminine” never made any sense to me. I’m gay as hell and I’ve never been anything close to feminine. It has literally zero basis outside of, I don’t know, cishet creep mentality?
In their minds it's simply because anyone that wants to get with a man is obviously taking on the feminine role, and that both men are feminine because of it.
And the other side of it is probably campness being the one thing straight people could use to clock gay people, and campness becoming associated (incorrectly) with all gay people because of its visibility.
Guess that for the straights there are two orientations: straight and sexual/flamboyant.
I’m basically like a stereotypical straight guy in every way except I happen to be gay (and without the creep attitude that seems incredibly common).
That I don’t fit the stereotype has led to an “are you sure tho?” Groundhog Day. Like, motherfucker yes I’m sure, I don’t go around questioning your straightness and suggesting you try same sex relationships every other week.
Cishets need to be placed under clinical observation.
Right and this is a problem for trans people in a unique way too. The trans people that pass can blend so well that cis people don't think they even exist, and if they do they're actually ok with those people because they don't even register as "bad" to them, they can just pretend they don't exist and in doing so they don't threaten patriarchy at all because they're non-existent.
The only idea of a trans person that exists in the head of cis people is those that do not pass. The ones they can clock. The ones that do not fit in the social design and patriarchy that they want.
The intersection of transphobia and misogyny, but you’ll still get people who deny that intersectionality is a thing.
I am so exhausted with this heteronormative/cisnormative (I’m sure there’s another word for it but I can’t recall) society treating every LGBT person as some exotic animal, like there must be an explanation and you owe it to them for your deviation from the “norm”. Rabid queerphobes spewing their vitriol about the LGBTs controlling society when trans people are being murdered left and right. Disgusting, profoundly sick society.
I would post more but I am exhausted lol
Yes, trans men are being forced to compete against women against their will. They never cared about fairness, it's entirely about hurting trans people.
Yeah max beggs in Texas. Trans guy wrestler who absolutely dominated because transphobic Texas politicians made him compete vs women.
And then the transphobes can point to that and say "see, trans people should just be banned" when they're the assholes who caused all of this in the first place
Fucking hate it here
There it is lol. thanks for nothing, bitch
an ideal world is one where all the fascists and capitalists are laid out in a nice little line and mowed down with .50 cal's
"Period, end of story."
"That being said..."
You support trans people. BUT... is not support of trans people. Its not complicated. The science is not complicated, its settled and theres no difference.
If you support trans peole stop at "end of story."
Edit: i reread your post and its even worse than i thought at first glance. You're just an outright bigot in denial.
Women's figure skating was created because Madge Syers was too good and the men felt threatened.
It's not complicated whatsoever.
A transwoman is a woman, regardless of where they are in transition. They don't have to transition AT ALL for that to be true.
They are a woman with a condition - being trans.
A trans man is a man, regardless of where they are in transition. They don't have to transition AT ALL for that to be true.
They are a man with a condition - being trans.
The only "complicated" thing in this is your bigoted mindset. You believe that these people are not what they say they are until they undergo and complete transition. You see them as their gender assigned at birth, which is incorrect, and you see them as "changing" their gender by undergoing invasive hormone treatment and surgery. This is a completely bigoted transphobic mindset and you need to rid yourself of these brainworms.
The issue is that you think they need to transition in order to be fucking valid dipstick. By enforcing "you must transition first" you are actively taking the position that they're not valid until they do.
Fuck you. Stop talking to trans people. You are dangerous to them and their health.
when there is an @ after the username, you can be assured the chance of being a shit opinion is high
There an "easy fix." There is an "easy answer" and you know exactly what that is the same way that ghoul does. The reason we don't live in an "ideal world" is because people like you advocate for throwing minorities under the bus the moment our existence becomes even slightly inconvenient for you.
Unless you believe that people will change their genders expressly for an advantage in sports, the differences aren't salient. And you shouldn't believe that.
It is pretty complicated, yeah. Scientifically accurate human sex is not conducive to cleanly segregating people into two categories. Yeah, there are clusters, but I guess all systems are perfectly reasonable as long as you ignore all the ways that they don’t make sense or fail to do their job. Ending gender segregation is the only valid solution.
But question of whether or not the Biden administration’s Department of Education should be using its powers to limit trans kids from playing school sports? That’s the only thing they have the power to do on this issue. And the answer is not complicated.
I don’t understand what you mean by this