114
I'm so tired (lemmy.ml)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] pirate2377@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

Did Biden win the senate? Did he appoint the judges for the supreme court? I agree that he mishandled the conflict in Israel, but I not sure what Biden could have done to stop the abolishment of Roe v Wade as an example. If anything, he did a good job bringing us back to some sense of stability after Trump's 1st term ended in disaster. We should critize the Democrats for their mismanagement in that goal, but this consensus that Republicans and Democrats are exactly the same I've been seeing everywhere is ridiculous. It's a false equivalence fallacy

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

My problem is not with the individual my issue is with the deomcratic party. You are correct that there wasn't anything Biden could actually do on his own. It would take a collective effort and likely military cooperation. It would cause political mayhem and be detrimental to the country as a whole and possibly destroyed the democratic party. It could prevent fascism though. I'm not saying any of this is easy or legal but it could have prevented fascism. Instead they did nothing of consequence.

I am personally of the opinion that fascism is incapable of being prevented through official means under capitalist liberal democracy so everything I say here is effectively meaningless. I'm sort of arguing that people in a system incapable of stopping fascism should have just done it anyway. Point is, you either have to accept that the democrats did nothing to stop fascism or that capitalist liberal democracy is incapable of stopping it and should be abandoned. Assuming you agree that the Trump administration is fascist.

You would probably refer to me as an authoritarian yeah but I think the term is meaningless. As far as I'm concerned all states are authoritarian and my endgoal is the dissolution of all states.

Edit: Roe v Wade should have been codified far before they had the chance to dismantle it but the democrats used it like a carrot on a stick.

[-] FunkyStuff@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Did Biden win the senate?

It seems that now that Trump is president, what congress says doesn't matter at all and the President can do whatever.

Did he appoint the judges for the supreme court?

He could've expanded it, like FDR threatened to do and forced the court to let him do some of the New Deal reforms they were previously opposed to. Biden never lifted a finger with regards to that. This also could've maintained Roe v Wade.

I agree that he mishandled the conflict in Israel,

  1. it's a genocide
  2. "mishandled" is a really egregious weasel word for "gave unconditional support to the government even as approval ratings slid down the drain"
[-] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The problem is if Biden had done this everything he did would have been struck down why it works for Trump is because Republican Congress doesn't stand up or have a spine when it's a Republican leader

You're literally dragging Democrats through the mud for the fact that Republicans won't hold each other accountable

Now don't get me wrong there's a lot Democrats need to be held accountable for but I just want it to be things that they earned

[-] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago

I'm curious by your last statement if you have a problem with Democrat candidates should have to earn a vote from us.

[-] FunkyStuff@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

So the Democratic Party is structurally incapable of pushing through the reforms and new programs that are necessary to stop fascism? Why should people keep being married to that party instead of supporting any other effort, and pay no rhetorical support nor lip service to a party that also facilitates fascism?

[-] pinto@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Now don’t get me wrong there’s a lot Democrats need to be held accountable for but I just want it to be things that they earned

They earn our vote when they aren't shitheels for fascists.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 points 2 weeks ago

The democrats didn't have to play by trump's rules, but they had to dismantle the foundations he had put in place during his term. I mean, they didn't even strengthen rules to avoid another Jan 6th. Didn't protect the freedom of the press. Didn't strengthen campaign finance laws. Didn't approach voting reform. Didn't ban gerrymandering. Nothing.

Democratic politicians (as opposed to Democrat Party politicians) seem to think you defeat the other side by winning elections, but it's impossible to win all the elections. At some point you lose, and all you've got left is your systematic safeguards to keep your democracy. You must bolster the safeguards while you can, even if it might work against you in the short term.

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

The problem is if Biden had done this everything he did would have been struck down why it works for Trump is because Republican Congress doesn’t stand up or have a spine when it’s a Republican leader

That's why you keep trying. That's what Republican presidents do. When they want to do something by executive order, they have their lawyers come up with a dozen different ways to accomplish the same goal using various provisions in different laws. They implement one. If SCOTUS strikes it down, they just move on to another method from the list. It takes years for the court to strike it down, and in the meantime they keep doing what they wanted to do.

this post was submitted on 17 Apr 2026
114 points (92.5% liked)

Political Memes

11750 readers
661 users here now

Welcome to politcal memes!

These are our rules:

1) Be civilJokes are okay, but don’t intentionally harass or disturb any member of our community. Sexism, racism and bigotry are not allowed. Good faith argumentation only. No posts discouraging people to vote or shaming people for voting.

2) No misinformationDon’t post any intentional misinformation. When asked by mods, provide sources for any claims you make.

3) Posts should be memesRandom pictures do not qualify as memes. Relevance to politics is required.

4) No bots, spam or self-promotionFollow instance rules, ask for your bot to be allowed on this community.

5) No AI generated content.Content posted must not be created by AI with the intent to mimic the style of existing images

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS