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[-] DozensOfDonner@mander.xyz 53 points 1 year ago

Working in neuroscience of consciousness field I feel him deeply. Although 57k sounds amazing to a Europoor

[-] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago

You can basically half American salary numbers because we have to pay for a lot of stuff that Europeans usually don't need to pay for. $57k in America is struggling if you live in a city. Anything below $40k is one car repair away from being financially ruined.

[-] newerAccountWhoDis@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Anything below $40k is one car repair away from being financially ruined.

You guys have cars while being poor? Sorry but seems stupid to me

[-] JohannaChittarra@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Welcome to our country that has utterly failed to invest in public transit outside of a few major cities, such that we must be dependent on cars. Love it here. amerikkka

[-] newerAccountWhoDis@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Wow your country really does hate its people huh

[-] JohannaChittarra@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago
[-] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

We don't have public transit, so we need cars... It's part of what makes us poor...

[-] newerAccountWhoDis@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Death to America

[-] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

You are correct. We are forced to have them though. There's no mass transit and everything is two hours away on foot. Most new cars now are $40k unless you get like a base Sentra but the median income is only $60k.

[-] DudePluto@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What are we considering in vs out of city? Does in city mean just downtown, within city limits, within metro area? And what are we considering a city - 300k population?

[-] culpritus@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Less than 30 minute commute, if it's less than that the price of housing goes up ~20% for each 5 minutes you would save.

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 25 points 1 year ago

57k sounds nice until you realize that 1200 go to your health plan and you still need to copay hundreds every time something comes up.

[-] Uncle_Bagel@midwest.social 27 points 1 year ago

American salaries are also always presented as gross income before taxes instead if net income after taxes like in Europe.

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 19 points 1 year ago

we also do gross before taxes in Germany. 57k before taxes is still a solid salary in many areas of Germany. Some MINT and Financelords might want to disagree with that, but it is in the top 15% of salaries. At that Level you pay about 5,1k taxes, 5,3k pension and 4,6k for health, 1,3k eldercare and 750 unemployment insurance. (all mandatory)

That seems quite a lot at first, but for instance unemployment pays 60% of your net income up to a year qfter loosing a job, health insurance also covers all children until they are 25 or earn more than 500€/month.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It only sounds like a lot of taxes to us Americans that don't actually do the math... I'm making almost 60kUSD so it's a very real comparison for me. Like your 4.6k healthcare tax is my 14.4k pay cut (mandatory healthcare coverage for full time employees paid for by the owner @1,200/month for me) Your 5k general tax is higher than my 3.6k income tax, but everything else offsets that by such a large margin that arguing against it is laughable.

Thing is we also pay a ton of of pocket when we go to the doctor too.

I wish we had a number to use like your 4.6k but for America so in our arguments for universal healthcare we could show just how much more we really pay...

Sorry for all the edits, I remember as I reread lol

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

If i remeber correctly the US could cut its healthcare costs in half by switching to an universal healthcare system, while granting healthcare to everyone.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago

A not insignificant amount of money goes towards administrative pay for all the middlemen involved...

Everyone has to get their slice of the... (Checks notes) necessary medical treatment of human beings... Ughh...

[-] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

but how would the middlemen line their pockets?

[-] Damage@feddit.it 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

57k gross is a bangin' income in Italy, at that level you pay about 35-40% in taxes if you have no deductibles etc, which means net 2631€/month, about twice the average.

You could work alone and support a stay-at-home wife

[-] BigNote@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Really? I had no idea. It turns out I make a lot more money than I thought.

[-] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

The biggest lesson from neuroscience: Most psychology is BS and the entire field is little better than pseudoscience.

[-] commiewithoutorgans@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think this is a very incorrect take. I don't think neuroscience has been able to make a single claim against psychology yet, nor any real and predictable claims at all which place it above psychology in application or correctness. Psychology of course has problems, and I'm very open to discussions of issues with methods and shit. But don't act like neuroscience has much of anything to say about it. They're entirely tangential fields with one at the experiential level and the other at the technical/non-experience level. Common mistake of thinking you know too much from the meme

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[-] machiabelly@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Really? What psychology has been disproven by neuroscience? Are psyc people resisting it or are they working together? Considering how much psyc has changed the world and helped people I think the idea that it's BS is a little strange.

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

we don't understand the brain very well, psych is somewhere between leeches and luminiferous aether.

if it was more well understood then people won't need to go to 15 fucking different therapists before finding one that helps (if you're lucky), antidepressants would do better than batters do at baseball, you wouldn't need to try dozens of different medications to find one that works (if you're lucky), and they'd take effect more quickly.

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Capitalism doesn't put money into social sciences so social sciences are leeches and humour theory pseudoscience. It's unknowable, because the money just isn't there. The free market had decided.

[-] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

There is money in psychology, but it's all put into making people act more normal. This can be good and useful for some people, many people need aderall to comfortably live, and it's good to stabilize depression, but these being driven by profit means often the underlying problem isn't fixed(in the cases this is possible) and society remains ableist(for issues that are endemic). Other social sciences can be kind of a crapshoot. Many anthropologists are doing very good, important, meaningful work. But not all. Archeology is a land of contrast, and sociology is good when not practiced by privileged westoids.

[-] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

The only real money in psychology is from marketing and advertising.

[-] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

You cannot tell me there isn't money in drugs.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago

Damn I should have been a psychologist. I'm great at BS.

[-] SnipingNinja@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

You could have even gotten a BS in psychology

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