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Cant tell how sincere this is but lol
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No, it absolutely is conservative. Anime weebery, and the conclusion to most arcs is "actually be what society wants you to be". The epilogue is especially bad for it; everything after you
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fight the killer.could have been cut and it would have made for a better game. Persona 3 and 5 are better for different reasons and 1 and 2 IS/EP is what many Persona fans want. It's packaged in old gameplay, so not many people bother.
Also, the Megaten game with the best politics is probably Shin Megami Tensei 2 where the best ending
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has you help a revolution and destroy the oppressive rule of God.You're right. I'm usually not one to bite my tongue when it comes to this series, but didn't want to offend the potential nusona fans around here too much, for whatever reason...
4 still has fun stuff around it. The characters are enjoyable, even if anime-tropey, the setting is really well executed and the villain of most of the game is great. The clear conservative bias of the writers, the times when it strays too far into anime-bullshit territory, and the pretty awkward connection of the plot of most of the game to the obligatory mythological megaten-style plot are big minuses though.
I wasn't especially under the charm of the characters, it's a game that I finished at a time when I saw it as a duty to finish what I bought, and certainly wouldn't do that today. However, I found Ai Ebihara (not sure about the name) interesting narratively as well as in gameplay (I appreciated being "punished", so to speak, for being the hypocrite expected in every other social links), and an excellent personification of the central theme.
We'll agree completely on the villain, there's something "real" about them; I totally can see someone acting the same way, given the possibility. Don't know if Hashino is responsible for this character, but if it's the case, I'll praise him without any reluctance.
Didn't work at all on me. Never could shake off the impression that it was as artificial as the 5 corridors that constitute Inaba... And yet I love the Japanese countryside as a setting, notably in Miyazaki's movies or the Boku no Natsuyasumi series.
I don't even know how to begin emulating the entire Shin Megami Tensei collection. I don't even know what platforms Persona 1 & 2 were on. Idk how old you are, but I feel like younger people were widely introduced to the game through the P3&4 gold ports. P3&4 were some of the biggest games on the PS Vita, and were almost more successful as remasters.
Japan is honestly fucking creepy. Like pre ww2, they were imperialist as fuck and literally getting military training from the US because they saw what happened in the Philippines and wanted a piece. Then after the nukes got dropped, America pretty much rebuilt the nation in its image. Glad Shinzo Abe got killed.
I did actually start with Persona 4 Golden, then fell deep into a rabbithole, so I played a lot of Megaten games.
Persona 1 was released on the PS1 and then re-released on the PSP. The remake features a different soundtrack to the original, more similar to the style from 3 or 4. However, the original soundtrack is extremely good (by Hidehiko Aoki, who passed away in 2002 unfortunately) -> imo the best way to play it is the PSP version with the original soundtrack patch.
Persona 2 has both PS1 and PSP versions. It is also divided into two parts, even though unfortunately few people play the sequel. The PSP versions are upgrades, but Innocent Sin's gameplay balance has kinda been ruined and the game is very easy. Eternal Punishment's port fixes all gameplay problems and is a worthy successor.
As for other games of the series I'd recommend: Shin Megami Tensei 1 (PS1 version), SMT 2, SMT 3 Nocturne (best played after 1 and 2, since it plays with expectations from that one), Strange Journey (there's an original or remake version - either is fine, but each has their fans and haters), Devil Survivor 1.
And a few I'd recommend with a but: SMT 4 + sequel (great gameplay but mid writing), Megami Tensei 2 (great game, but it's very old and janky), Shin Megami Tensei if... (good if you really like SMT 1 or 2's gameplay - it's light on story and is primarily a dungeon crawler. It's technically a persona prequel, since the canonically female MC shows up in Persona 1 and 2 as a surprisingly relevant character)
Yeah psp persona 1 just endless loops a track with lyrics in the dungeons and its mind numbing. I didn't know there was a music patch. I'll have to check that out
This is the quality of music in the original soundtrack.
Also a quality translator is currently working on the PS1 version, but they're the kind of person to give few updates and just release once it's done.
P1 & 2 IS/EP were originally released on PSX and later ported on PSP. P1 got a wonky localization that transposed the setting to murica and cut the Snow Queen quest, an entire B route, from the game; the PSP version is faithful to the original with the exception of an horrid new OST that tries to mimic the pop style of 3 and 4. Innocent Sin didn't get translated until the PSP version; probably because it features Hitler as an antagonist. Eternal Punishment, direct sequel to IS, got its PSX version translated, but not the PSP one (there's a fan translation though)...
I recommend you the PSP versions:
Infamously also turned one of the characters black. Which one? Oh, the guy who wants to be a graffiti artist and thus has frequent run ins with the local cops.
The Snow Queen Quest is also interesting, for it's basically the basis to the new!Persona formula.
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