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[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don’t understand the ultimate goal here. What is the point of this meme that has been flooding lemmy lately? Liberals follow major media outlets. Major media outlets like simple stories of good and bad. So they conveniently ignore things that don’t fit into that narrative…but the same is true of every single world event.

What is the ultimate point of this? It’s obviously not to point out what I just stated. There is a goal here and it seems…like supporting Russia, a global superpower and aggressor, in a war against—what is being painted here as just a bunch of nazis. The unspoken message here is, “you don’t want to support a bunch of nazis. Go russia.”

Am I…missing something?

[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago

So...if Ukraine wins or collapses or it just devolves into a forever war, there's going to be a lot more Nazis in eastern Europe and a surge in reaction. Ukraine, if it survives, will be a fascist state once Zelensky looses the unifying pressure of war. If it doesn't Europe will be flooded with ukranian irredentist groups and Polish Gallacia will be essentially fascist.

To preserve NATO, these reactionaries will need to be accomodated, much as Turkey is. Sobthe public must be primed.

The EU has already had to make accommodations with Polish Fascists. And the only reason the Hungarians haven't been rehabilitated is that they're sticking with a pro Russia strategy. The one silver lining is that all these Nationalists hate each other and have trouble coordinating without a dominant party forcing them.

And NATO flooded the region with enough weapons to make the middle east jealous

[-] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 1 year ago

They found a way to do it in the open with this one, which makes things a little easier.

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