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this post was submitted on 11 Dec 2023
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A man drank 2.5 litres of caffeinated lemonade, totalling 1100+ mg of caffeine. He then died.
Theres probably a co-morbidity because the LD50 of caffeine is like 5000mg.
Honestly its safe to expect most Americans to have some already existing heart condition
Still kinda irresponsible for them to put something stronger than energy drinks in a self serve drink fountain. They labelled it with "390mg caffeine per large serve" expecting the average American to know metric or have any frame of reference outside of people that read the FDA website (which also for some reason says 400 mg, in metric, for the recommended daily intake for an adult)
Yup, should have had an included warning ("X is the recommended safe daily amount of caffeine"), then again that's expecting a corporation to actually care about people which they do not (or expect to be punished when they harm them via negligence).
Let's be honest, it would just be like the fine print that says "drink responsibly" pasted on Everclear or some other 90% alcoholic spirit.
At least alcohol you can taste and if it's strong as hell you can feel. Someone attempting to just down some everclear is more than likely just gonna barf most of it back right up immediately and feel fucking terrible before they can do too much harm to themselves. It feels like you're doing damage. This could sneak up on people.
True, the smallest of fine print in the corner where it can still be legally defended as a "warning", this stuff should prolly get the 4Loko treatment and be removed from the public but sadly will prolly not
"warning drink too much and you'll fucking die"
would be my suggested warning
I have that frame of reference because I abused caffeine pills. I would carry them around in an Altoids container because they went down a little easier with a coating of Altoids dust. They were 200 mg apiece. I only exceeded two in a serving once and regretted it intensely, then failed the final for which I was attempting to cram. A two-pill drink is bonkers, and at Panera? I don't understand this place any longer.
Both the people who died after drinking it did IIRC
I might be misremembering, but I think caffeine's ld50 is closer to 2000mg. 1000mg is enough for a normal person to suffer caffeine poisoning at any rate.
wtf that's insane