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Biden unharmed after car strikes president's motorcade in Delaware
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If this was just a DUI or something, the driver is going to have a very very bad time.
A car accident is horrifying enough. Can you imagine realizing you just hit the presidential motorcade? In Delaware?
Is Delaware worse for some reason?
Just the realization that you're in Delaware is enough.
Like, who even lives in Delaware?
Mostly corporations.
So...lottsa people /s
I remember the first time I met a person from Delaware. I was shocked. I think I said to them, "I didn't know anyone actually lived there."
Maybe we just don't know what they do about Delaware and that's why they never leave. It's a paradise beyond paradises.
I'll have to know, there are dozens of us
Biden
Can you even call that living?
All the corporations ever. Wonder if they count for the population since they became people.
Beware, Delaware.
Delawhat?
Delamain. Wake up, Samurai
Delawho?
I believe it’s Biden’s home state, so people around there probably love him. Can’t imagine being very popular with your neighbors once news gets out.
On the other hand, the driver probably has a uniquely high chance of a presidential pardon. Seeing how the president is already aware of his case.
The president could only ask the delaware governor to grant one.
Good eye skimmed over the Delaware part. Assuming it was a DUI (and not an intentional attack) it'd be state jurisdiction.
Yeah, he might catch some federal flack, but it seems most of his issues will be state affairs unless this wasn't just hitting the worst possible car.
Even if he were a drunk terrorist, the feds would handle the attack, and as long he isn't charged federally (if one even could be), the state can still slap an everyday DUI there.
If he gets pardoned and it happens again can he use the same pardon twice?
Non-joke answer: Pardons are for a person's actions not the person in general. He would need a second pardon.
Thats an interesting distinction :) Can you talk more about that?
Not sure what exactly you want me to touch on. But pardons can't be for future actions.
Let's say you rob a bank and get pardoned. Having received that pardon doesn't mean you can go rob that bank again free of charge.
If you had robbed that bank again after getting pardoned you'd face prison time. But if the president happens to believe in ~~second~~ third chances and grants you a second pardon for the second robbery you could walk free.
Gotcha, ya I didn't think it was like omnibus/universal immunity for future offences aha. That would be like...presidential immunity and even that's not supposed to be a forever thing, shouldn'teven be allowed during or should be heavily qualified
Edit: found it interesting that pardons can actually halt the prosecutorial effort altogether, like prior to a verdict. Maybe there should be a cooling off period like requiring all oending litigation to play out and then by then see where everybody's at.
Justice delayed/disrupted ⚖️ right?
Yeah the idea behind a pardon is that the head executive is basically saying that you’ve been punished enough and that no further prosecution will occur. It’s similar to how they can stay a death penalty. But the big downside is that accepting a pardon means accepting legal guilt. You can’t keep fighting a case saying you weren’t ever guilty.
For an example of how far pardons go look at Nixon. The case was still being built, and Ford (idiotically) deemed that proceeding with a trial of a former president over election misdeeds would do too much damage to the nation’s trust in its political system. Nixon didn’t stand trial. Nixon only pled guilty by acceptance of the pardon. But because of that, had he been able to run again (he’d hit his term limit) and tried, he would’ve had a court case over if his crimes prohibited him from running again, same as if he’d gone to prison for them.
If it doesn't work for farts, probably not
Would this be considered a federal offense? Seems like a local thing. The president can only pardon federal crimes.
That's not true, he can also pardon his French.
There's a couple ways they could make this a federal offence depending on the circumstances, ranging from destruction of federal property (assuming Biden was in a gov car) to attempted assassination of the active US president. Again depending on the circumstances.
Immediately disappeared to a black site.
Yeah I was hoping for an update, but I just realized the Secret Service is going to be up this guy's ass like a colonoscopy for a long time before we hear anything.
Decidedly one of the worst hangovers anyone's ever had. "What happened last ni-oh my God"
To be fair, he shouldn't suffer any greater punishment than if he had hit into anyone else.