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[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

The west appears to have exactly the same policy they have had the entire time also - and that is: leave the sovereign territory of the other nation, and there will be peace.

And when Russia points out its really conspicuous how this is a standard only ever applied to them?

Russia says its their territory, Ukraine says its there's. At this point there are literally only three options.

  1. Recognize Russia claim, cede the land, end the war and ukraine can go forward with the territory they have now. (Maybe they can even think about allowing opposition political parties and elections at some point.)

  2. Don't recognize Russia claim, keep doing whatbwere doing and, as the west loves to say "fight to the last ukrainian". Then there will be nobody left in Ukraine and Russia can take all of it (or Ukraine like, takes off weights and reveals it actually has more capacity to fight then they've been letting on for the whole counter offensive)

  3. Other countries back Ukraines claim and get directly involved in fighting Russia in a hot war, putin, Xi, and Biden grt to fight over the nuclear ashes.

Which of those would you prefer, because the solution I keep seeing from liberals "Russia decides to stop for no apparent reason, gives up goes home and gives all the land back" is not actually a realistic or even feasible outcome.

So I really want to know, which of the three real world options would you prefer, and again "I wave a magic wand and Russia gives up and goes home" is not one of them.

this post was submitted on 19 Dec 2023
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