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77 Groups Worldwide Back Genocide Lawsuit Against Biden in U.S. Court
(theintercept.com)
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Conservatives should really be running with this. It's such an easy win for them. They get a genocide to satisfy their bloodlust AND they get to blame it on their enemy.
They could use it for their impeachment attempt and they could even demand he be arrested and tried in the Hague. Thankfully, conservatives are stupid as fuck and can't see the easy points.
They’re too busy thinking that surely THIS slaughter jump starts the second coming.
Yup, the religious right only supports Isreal because they seriously believe once all jews are in Israel and they rebuild a temple, all jews and none believers will die in a holy fire. While the "real" Christians will float off to heaven. I wish I was joking but it's the truth. These are the people in control of 50% of our government.
What can be done about it? Clearly voting doesn't work, it got us here in the first place.
Voting does work.
Your should do it more, and harder (by registering others).
I'm also curious how you created this account 3 months ago, only to finally make a comment, and this was it.
I got my account a while ago but only started using it recently, and this happened to be the first thing I've felt strongly enough to comment about. What are you insinuating? What's so curious about it?
My point is that I do vote, I have campaigned, I have canvassed, I have phone banked, I have fundraised. Did it for Obama when I was 18, and the so-called "change" never came. I did it for Bernie, even phone banked from overseas, and we all know what happened there. I even tried tackling corporate irresponsibility head on by working for Greenpeace, fundraised and raised awareness, attended protests, helped people send letters to their reps, the whole nine yards. Took all this for me to realize the problems go beyond the purely symbolic particapatory act of "voting", a piece of paper in a ballot box is simply not enough. Our democracy is going to have to be fought for, that's what i'm insinuating, if that's sates any of your curiosity.
So in your world voting, canvassing, phone banking, volunteering, and protesting do not work.
Your suggestion: violence.
Good luck with that, I'm going to vote.
Why is violence the only other option? Your words, not mine. We could picket and protest outside their homes and gated communities, we could strike, we could organize a boycott. Or is the reason you suggest violence, because deep down, you realize that's what it might take?
Yeah but they hate brown people
They also hate whites that aren't the "correct" type of white. Ukrainians are "relatively civilized and relatively european", for instance.
They don't like Ukranians because Russia doesn't like Ukraine. It's not a racial thing.
It's complicated. They like Ukrainians just fine. In fact, trafficking cute little blonde haired blue eyed white babies out of Ukraine is a lucrative past time for certain ex-Congressmen.
There's a real racial split between Russians and Ukrainians, but it revolves around the East/West split between Slavs and non-Slavs. It isn't something Americans really recognize and Republicans don't care either way. The GOP aren't aligning with the Russians nearly so much as they are polarized against the Democrats. And that goes back to the split in the CIA/military under Obama, which ties back to the war on terror, which really boils down to whether or not brown skin disqualifies your humanity.
So its a surprisingly complex racial thing, historically. But for now it mostly just involves taking the opposite position of the second-term Obama administration, because they're the Not-Democrats Party. If Trump ever gets back into office, it would be fairly easy to convince him to be pro-Ukraine / anti-Russia, with the right collection of NatSec folks whispering in his ear.
Besides, they’d be going much harder than Biden is. They agree with supporting Israel, and if Trump gets back in office and this thing is still ongoing, I wouldn’t be surprised if he tried to send troops over to help Israel.
I mean Israel named a settlement after trump lol.
They can't discuss non-white genocide without getting a boner and tweaking their nipples
This would make sense if they didn't also want to bomb civilians in the Middle East
They’re probably worried about the legal precedent of a sitting president actually getting in trouble for genocide, since they’re planning one next year and all.
Lol as if regressives give a shit about precedent
They've spent the last 23 years running on the "Arabs are scary and we need to kill them" platform. Why would they support a measure that's anti-genocide?
If they're going to run bullshit impeachment efforts that die in the Senate, why waste effort and pick a fight with AIPAC when they can just hold up a picture of Hunter Biden's dick pick and call any Democrat who votes against impeachment a pedophile?
But what will the GOP say when they want to commit genocide to US citizens...
They want the bloodlust in their lives though.
You can't try a POTUS in the Hague. Well, not without a very serious fight.
Why "thankfully"? Fuck Biden.
Fuck Biden, I do hope he drops out and we can get a better candidate in the primary (if we even have one). But when it comes to the presidential vote, and the only choices are Biden and Trump, I'll have no choice but to vote for Biden. Because Trump is no longer even hiding his fascism, he's riding on it now
I really don't understand why so many people like to pretend a fight for the nomination wouldn't simply result in losing the Election. All it does is increase the number of folks refusing to Vote claiming that somehow there shall be a lesson learned after we all saw the exact same idiot claims in 2016 which all simply elected the idiot and accomplished nothing else.
Sorry, I don't understand. Do you think Biden should be the only choice for the democratic nomination for this election?
On 538 I can see he has the lowest popularity at this time than any other president we have data on. I would think more Americans would vote for a different democratic candidate than they would for Biden, even though he is the incumbent. That's why I think other choices during the primary would be better for support of the democratic party in the national election. I'm just trying to understand your point of view if you think otherwise
What is happening in Isreal/Gaza has been an ongoing event. What people forget is 2 years ago 2021 favorability to Palestinians over Isreal was up to 30% a 7% rise in a year. (In the U.S.) So from Truman till October/ November of 2023 there had never been a sitting president who represented a populous that was pro Palestinians over Israel. (Strange way to word that). Tides are changing and things are happening fast. 2024 will show us a lot.
Not sure if this source is any good, but a view from 2021 US Israel/Palestinians
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That said, the best thing that could have happened for this country is arresting and sentencing Trump to life in prison in the immediate months following Jan 6. Then it would have given 3 years to die down, and Biden would never have ran for president. There is no candidate that showed an inkling of wanting to run that could beat out Biden and Trump (or Biden would have likely supported them or even offered to have him or Harris stay as their VP to ensure they secured the election)
Biden is the only choice as he is the Incumbent. Any other consideration is a direct path to losing. That is the simple reality. That is exactly what happened in 2016. People stayed home after their candidate did not get the nod. Demanding, promoting, or in fact whining about not having any other choices is naive and self defeating.
Our system in place creates a binary. There is no third option that is viable. You don't have to like choosing between a giant douche and a shit sandwich, but at least the douche is trying to clean something.
That's an understandable argument considering the historical incumbent advantage. However, I think this election is unlike other incumbents and there is reason to believe the incumbent advantage doesn't apply for Biden this election cycle.
I don't understand your point about the 2016 election, none of the articles I read about how Hilary lost the Electoral College vote despite winning the popular vote mentioned her having opposition in the primaries as one of the reasons.
I'm not saying vote third party, that's a red herring in a FPTP voting system. (It should be a kind of ranked voting system like approval or STV, hopefully if enough states switch, the national one can too.)
The Voter turn out was depressed across the States in play. That is not remotely in question.
You must get ranked choice in place before not pretend it'll get put in place.
Yes, it's very true that 2016 has historical low voter output. But I don't see how you're attributing that to her opposition in the primaries. All the analysis I've read over and data I've seen suggests that it was her as a candidate and what the DNC decided to focus on. Her policies not improving the material conditions of the voter base and the democratic party not focusing on key demographics.
It was very ugly and suppressed turn out because the folks that bought into the propaganda stayed home "to teach the Dem.s a lesson". Of course the actual lesson was lost a many folks that are again buying into the propaganda.
Do you have any sources to suggest that? Without evidence I find it hard to believe that claim
Then you were not there and didn't pay attention.
Ben Ghazi and his Buttery Males review were pounded by the Republicans and the infighting over the primary season gave backing to it as that was the primary argument made against her and Democratic Party saw poor turn out as folks were apathetic, since they bought into the claims as a result of the infighting getting used by Corpo media to cudgel Clinton as corrupt and they all thought otherwise there was no horse race. The infighting was the singular reason it wasn't ignored by the apathetic no shows. Social media was full of "teach the Dems a lesson", much as it is today.
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2018/08/09/an-examination-of-the-2016-electorate-based-on-validated-voters/
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/voter-turnout-2016-elections
https://news.yale.edu/2021/04/21/swing-vote-trumped-turnout-2016-election
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/20/opinion/sunday/the-democrats-real-turnout-problem.html
The third article does suggest conversion played a larger role than compositional change (attracting more voters).
The other three articles notify a lack of turnout as the main culprit. A lack of turnout will naturally diminish voters from compositional change and highlight voters of conversion. That makes it clear that the driving factor was Hilary and the DNC's campaign strategy not attracting enough voters. Which brings me back to the reasons I stated above. None of these blame the primaries or 'infighting' as the reason. It seems you really want to blame Hilary's opposition like Bernie for her loss instead of Hilary and the DNC.
The situation was more complex that some people on the Internet switching votes to own the libs
estimate AKA guess.
oops, “Several million voters didn’t come out to vote,” Becker said. “Which is telling me that this idea of the Trump wave, a huge number of voters shifting over to Trump, is certainly not the story.” seems you skipped some stuff just like you ignored what was being reported and posted in 2016.
Sadly, as you are blatantly in bad faith, Yeah sure dude, whatever.
I don't back nor refute claims without sources. Not sure what you think bad faith is, I haven't moved any goalposts or deflected. I don't appreciate your attitude, good day.
Because the conservative party is filled with Neanderthals
Found the tankie.
Do you even know what that word means?
Yes, yes I do. I have had the misfortune of encountering several in my life, sadly. They are basically the same as incels, sov cits, and evangelicals in their extremeness and hatred.