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So at what point and why should we start helping them to break the law. Border patrol should not help you in any case where you’re illegally entering the country willingly. Which there is an argument for the kids they weren’t willingly entering the country, but either way why should it be on US border patrol to help people in Mexico trying to illegally enter.
Your point holds true, as long as you're a sociopath.
I had the strong displeasure of dealing with someone with antisocial personality disorder once. Yeah he was a Republican, how did you know? I am positive he would let a kid drown if he thought there was no benefit in helping.
You could always save them from drowning then just put them back in Mexico. I'd say saving a person's life is always more important than obeying the law
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/seeking-protection-how-us-asylum-process-works
To be an asylum seeker in the United States you must apply for asylum at one of 328 official ports of entry or from within the country already. Unless rainfall has been really bad there is no legal port of entry underwater. This person is therefore an illegal immigrant breaking the law, not an asylum seeker following the laws of the country they wish to integrate into.
https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/can-safe-third-country-agreements-resolve-asylum-crisis
In addition, many are denied for breaking another asylum seeking rule. You must seek asylum in the closest safe country. In most cases for immigrants like the woman and childrent that is Brazil, Guatemala, Panama, Mexico, and El Salvador. Any “asylum seeker” going through safe countries to reach the US is breaking the law and is not a real asylum seeker. The US border patrol has no obligation to save people illegally entering the country through unsafe routes, endangering Americans.
See that’s the thing about you people.
You think you’re really doing the same thing leftists do right now, where you just post some sources and type out some bullshit about how it ties to your stance that murdering immigrants is a valid human thought.
Ignoring the scientifically proven fact that you are so fucking stupid your brain literally is unable to make the logical connections to do so, looking like a complete clown to anyone above room temp IQ.
Ignoring the fact that even now you are just unhinged fearposting because some pedophile tells you what to think.
Because at the end of the day, the only thing your dumb fucking skill can understand is acute lead poisoning.
Remember this liberals, next time you try to “peacefully vote” the fascists out. Remember what you are too cowardly to do.
If your mind is too small to comprehend unchecked immigration will ruin this cohntry there is no saving you. I have no sympathy for you or what will happen to you and your loved ones if your terrible ideals come to light. Also, what scientifically proven fact would you like to source on how every single conservative is less smart than liberals? From the sounds of it you have one source from a very left leaning point of view that stroked your ego so much you just have to quote it.
Yes, I heard your Messiah speak about this the other day. Immigrants are poisoning our blood is how your Messiah phrased it.
Not a trump tard, nor a republican for that matter.
Sure buddy
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And in a should you save the same people from drowning again?
If rescue is not on US soil, can they even do it?
Should soldiers risk their lives in flood waters if they are on US soil?
A real American would have rescued them.
Seeking asylum is NOT against the law.
https://www.unrefugees.org/news/what-is-asylum-the-fundamentals-of-seeking-safety/
You need to get out of whatever bubble you're in and expand your sources.
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/seeking-protection-how-us-asylum-process-works
To be an asylum seeker in the United States you must apply for asylum at one of 328 official ports of entry or from within the country already. Unless rainfall has been really bad there is no legal port of entry underwater. This person is therefore an illegal immigrant breaking the law, not an asylum seeker following the laws of the country they wish to integrate into.
https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/can-safe-third-country-agreements-resolve-asylum-crisis
In addition, many are denied for breaking another asylum seeking rule. You must seek asylum in the closest safe country. In most cases for immigrants like the woman and childrent that is Brazil, Guatemala, Panama, Mexico, and El Salvador. Any “asylum seeker” going through safe countries to reach the US is breaking the law and is not a real asylum seeker. The US border patrol has no obligation to save people illegally entering the country through unsafe routes, endangering Americans.
Sounds a lot like "it's better for people to die rather than to go from one place to another without the correct documents."
Like all law enforcement agencies, CBP is interested in maintaining order. It is better for them to apprehend and process those crossing the border without documentation than to deliberately make the crossing more dangerous.
Not everyone who enters the USA without a visa is breaking the law. Not all types of illegal immigration are the same. The only way to make that determination is by apprehending undocumented migrants.
Letting someone drown over a misdemeanor seems a touch harsh.
Not American soil, not America’s problem. Let Mexican border patrol deal with it.
"Let children die if the Mexicans don't help" is an odd attitude.
false. Also disgusting.
That does bring up the question of why Mexico isn't giving aid.
I love Mexicans, and I love immigrants, even the illegal ones. But shouldn't Mexico play some role here? Why is the border all America's legal responsibility?
(And if anyone wants to argue that those Mexicans are running here because our drug habits are fueling Mexican cartels, I'm all with ya. Yes, even you weed smokers contribute.)
They are trying, they have been doing more in the last month as well. There were funding issues with something that is getting sorted out and the number of migrants coming to the border has dropped significantly, but how significantly is hard to say. Also most/many of those migrants arent Mexican citizens either, they came from South America and such, the issue stems from extremely high inflation rates and other complex economic issues creating unsafe spaces where people need to escape
Example article: https://apnews.com/article/mexico-immigration-enforcement-crossings-drop-b67022cf0853dca95a8e0799bb99b68a
What you're saying is just blatantly false and would be a violation of international human rights law.
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/seeking-protection-how-us-asylum-process-works
To be an asylum seeker in the United States you must apply for asylum at one of 328 official ports of entry or from within the country already. Unless rainfall has been really bad there is no legal port of entry underwater. This person is therefore an illegal immigrant breaking the law, not an asylum seeker following the laws of the country they wish to integrate into.
https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/can-safe-third-country-agreements-resolve-asylum-crisis
In addition, many are denied for breaking another asylum seeking rule. You must seek asylum in the closest safe country. In most cases for immigrants like the woman and childrent that is Brazil, Guatemala, Panama, Mexico, and El Salvador. Any “asylum seeker” going through safe countries to reach the US is breaking the law and is not a real asylum seeker. The US border patrol has no obligation to save people illegally entering the country through unsafe routes, endangering Americans.
Womp womp, unless they’re cuban or similar island nation they have a closer safe country. They aren’t asylum seekers they illegal immigrants attempting to thwart the laws of the very country they want into. Illegal immigrants have neither my sympathy nor my support, border patrol should make no attempt to help them break into the country, especially if they are across the border in Mexico.
"Or from within the country already"
This involves coming in the country illegally and then having that be retroactively legal when they declare Asylum status, that is how it works in our and every other country that observes international law.
The "safe" country exemption is preposterous and arguably illegal under international law too, there's a reason even people from so called "safe" countries like Mexico flee to the US.
You can enter the country legally and then apply for asylum status. That right is available at any legal border crossing into the United States. Also, reread the original news article and you’ll see the woman was not in the US yet but was actively attempting to break the law. US border patrol has no obligation to help someone in Mexico break into the US.
On your second point, are these international laws the United States has signed and agreed to? Similar to how the ICJ works, the US has no legal obligation to follow “international law” that it didnt agree to.
We do if they're literally drowning you fucking psychopath.
How about you reread the link I sent that explicitly says you're wrong, it's not that hard, literally just the third box down Your ability and RIGHT to apply for asylum has nothing to do with how you enter the country.
Mexican territory, Mexican issue, no need to endanger an American for someone still in Mexico. On your second point, you didn’t reread the news article. They weren’t IN America, they had not applied for asylum. They were breaking into the country. If they wanted to apply for asylum, they should have done so at a legal border crossing.
I disagree with this premise.
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