Gotta say, the phrase "deeply unserious" is a POWERFUL weapon, I kneel before whichever debate addict lefty trans black belt probably came up with it first. It always works in my experience. My guess is that it's because typically the opposition is TERRIFIED of appearing sincere and/or serious in front of their peers, and/or lib propaganda has taught them that people who are serious about systemic improvement are dangerous and frightening.

Like really, is the response "uh no I am actually very serious" gonna work? NO, the unstated truth among these people is that nobody is really serious about any of their stupid fucking team sports west-wing-ass ideologies. It's the GAME. They know it's true that they are indeed unserious, and so they have to take some time to establish that this tryhard lefty fun police dickhead just came in and said "I'm not playing the game." By that point the lefty has probably left the discussion though, so while it is frighteningly effective, like all debate owns it accomplishes nothing. Still fun though tbh