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And putting up signs and cameras literally only does so much to convince people to slow down on wide, straight roads. How likely is the average driver in your area to speed? I can assure you, half of the road users are worse than that.
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"How likely is it that drivers are speeding?"
Much more likely if there's nothing to punish them for doing so.
https://sh.itjust.works/comment/7705481
Not Just Bikes isn't the fucking second coming off Christ, you need to push your reflection a bit farther than his message.
You never replied to the "Ok, but what about between now and when all the roads have been redesigned?" part, weird right? That's decades and trillions of dollars you're saying we should spend to reach a solution, so, what happens in the meantime?
What's your REALISTIC solution that works NOW and can be QUICKLY applied EVERYWHERE?
And "realistic solutioins that work now and can be quickly applied everywhere" are far too easily quick fixes. And nothing is as permanent as a quick fix.
Besides, at least one of your sources is a Canadian car journalist, someone who's probably personally invested in sucking GM's metaphorical dick.
And let's also face it, Canada, a country where a city of half a million people was "too small for a rapid transit network," while cities a third its size have about as much, if not more, absolute track mileage and ridership on their tram network than Toronto.
Who's the biased one here, mister pot, accusing the kettle he's black?
You still don't present any solutions and you dismiss sources based on your personal bias against car journalists and a country without presenting any actual evidences that's they're wrong (because you won't find any).
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2090447923000436
Again. We live in the here and now, what's your solution to speeding drivers that can be applied to save lives NOW while roads are getting redesigned?
Two words: Jersey barriers.
You can at least create the chicanes by putting up concrete barriers. Just as simple as a moveable speed trap, achieves much of the traffic calming effect, no extra police resources needed.
EDIT: In fact, now I think about it, using planters will have most of the same effect, while looking prettier.
Damn, you finally did it, you proved that you're actually able to come up with a solution instead of just acting like it's either 100% or nothing, bravo!
Speed cameras would still be required to catch people still speeding through them though.
Oh, they'll be caught soon enough at the mechanics with dented bumpers.