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hot take, feel free to dunk but holy shit, all the posts from white people being like "let's kill all the white people" is insufferable "i'm one of the good ones!" nonsense and it really should stop (hexbear.net)

submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by blakeus12@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

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saying something this edgy does not absolve you of bigotry

edit: for anyone stumbling into the drama, i probably should have elaborated on this post. I am not saying you can't make fun of white people not being able to eat spicy food or anything, but at some point it becomes self-flagellating. to quote comrade RedQuestionAsker:

It's good to challenge white supremacy in all of its incarnations at all time. It's certainly good to refuse to be proud to be white considering what the concept of whiteness is.

It's another thing to performatively hate yourself in a cocktail of millennial self-deprecation and liberal white guilt. It's not revolutionary, and it's probably not good for you.

that is all. comrades just know i dont hate any of you. i'm not trying to start a slapfight. i just saw this as weird performative behavior and wanted to call it out.

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[-] IzyaKatzmann@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

When I see it on hexbear or like friends (I have a white friend dw; ok had and that's cuz I moved) I does not bother me, sometimes it comes out of the blue I think, but maybe that's me not paying attention.

I'm at an institution which is quite progressive (groups speak out against Isr--l killing Gazans (and uh, other people from Isr--l) and whenever profs or some upper year well-known students, academics or scholars do it, even the ones that are kinda based, I cringe hard and it's difficult to believe it's genuine and not finding another way to put the spotlight on themselves...

[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago

it's difficult to believe it's genuine and not finding another way to put the spotlight on themselves...

I think that's the purpose of it really...

[-] IzyaKatzmann@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago

I want to say it is nearly all the time. It's just, this might be an affective thing I have, at times I can't tell and it feels really confusing. Since what they are saying 1. doesn't appear to line up with my understanding of material reality, which is fine, and more importantly 2. the outcomes that are said to happen, like how maybe a person is 'struggling alone' and has 'difficulty being an ally'; aren't those the diagnostics or whatever like indicators that tell the person who is putting the spotlight on themselves to maybe try something else?

I try to talk to such a person, they always seem pretty genuine (exceptions ofc) and what they say really just confuses me more. If they were just lying it would be way easier to understand, and if they have 'drunk their own kool-aid' then I can never sort of manage to get any clarifying information...

What do you think? How would you tell what a person is using internally to continue their behaviour? Is it they get small 'wins' and that's enough to re-inforce the self-righteous behaviour? I was sorta like that before accepting what is out of my head (i.e. material world) is not the same as what is in my head.

[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

What do you think? Idk, I honestly haven't met a white person like that... I would tell them to knock it off, and tell them I don't know how to deal with it

How would you tell what a person is using internally to continue their behaviour? Is it they get small 'wins' and that's enough to re-inforce the self-righteous behaviour?

Maybe, but I think it's more of like repetition of such behaviors and how they act to other POC and white people, because I think that would indicate their ungeniune nature...

If they act otherwise naturally as themselves to everyone around them, I wouldn't harbor much suspicion,

But then again, this is a social media site

Ceci n'est pas la realite...