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[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 55 points 10 months ago

I'm gonna go with the standard 0% or round up the number if i feel like it.

[-] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 31 points 10 months ago

Right? Like why is people's STANDARD giving money away.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Normally, you're paying a tip on service. So, the waiter hovering over your table and collecting your order / refilling your drink / dusting off the table between courses is part of the dining experience. Its fee for service.

But yeah, now the credit card reader asks if you want to pay a tip to the fucking vending machine. Its asinine.

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago

There's a self service store in the Newark airport that sells overpriced snacks for travelers stuck without any other options. It asks you for a tip while you check yourself out. As if paying $6 for a cup of juice wasn't bad enough already.

[-] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago

Price of the product and service is the list price. Tipping is extra

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago

List price virtually never includes service fees and taxes, at least in the States. I swear, its like some of you people have never eaten out before.

[-] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I've been eating in restaurants from street food to nice ones on multiple countries, and continents. Service fee (and taxes too BTW) are always included in the list price. That's the default

What kind of shithole country you're living in?

Edit: since servers in USA are paid hourly (even if shitty), the service fee must be in the list price. it's just the fact that the servers are not paid enough, and the customers are being blackmailed to pay extra off the books

[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 2 points 10 months ago

Because that's how our service industry is built.

Tipping isn't mandatory. But the issue is if a lot of people stop tipping all at once, servers will quit those locations. Then those locations will almost certainly go out of business because they can't afford to pay a living wage because the US's commercial real estate is insanely expensive. Current restaurant models essentially are built on this dynamic and to change it would require a lot of moving pieces to change. But for those pieces to change, a LOT of businesses will need to go out of business all at once to tank the real estate market.

And you may think: if they can't afford to pay a living wage, they should go out of business. That's a reasonable stance but it ignores the result: megacorps will buy up real estate and only huge chain restaurants will likely survive these kinds of busts. All your local favorite places will go under and be replaced by Fridays or Applebees because their thousands of locations can close 25% to focus on profitability.

[-] Darkmuch@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago

I’ve been asked for tips when having carryout. And also getting a scoop of ice cream. Tipping is a relic of racist practices when southern people didn’t want to pay emancipated black workers a wage. It only still exists because restaurant owners lobby congress to keep it a thing. Stop bribing congress and pay your employees you fucks.

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