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[-] generaldenmark@programming.dev 151 points 10 months ago

Americans be like; “If you can’t afford to pay 69% tip then don’t go out eating at all”

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 105 points 10 months ago

If you're going to say "69%" , you need to call it eating out, not out eating.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

Also, complaining that things will cost too much if waiters eek by on more than minimum wage.

[-] dabaldeagul@feddit.nl 34 points 10 months ago

The cost is literally the same... Restaurants would just be upfront about it then.

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[-] De_Narm@lemmy.world 127 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Something I don't get, why is it percentage based? I mean, I get it from the waiters perspective. But as a customer? Whether my one plate of food is 20$ or 200$, he did the same thing. Scaling with more items or time spent would seem more appropriate.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 142 points 10 months ago

If you are are trying to find logic within tipping you might as well chase windmills. It's dumb as bolts.

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[-] quackers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 122 points 10 months ago

Keep this garbage out of europe please. i see it popping up. I will absolutely refuse to tip a single goddamn soul at this point going forward.

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[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.world 116 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The whole damn system exists to place the burden of a living wage on the customer while the company paying peanuts can claim no wrongdoing. And the really sad part is: it has worked.

Edit: and there are many, many businesses that wouldn't be in business if they actually had to pay competitive wages on their own. The invisible hand can fix nothing if tipping culture says to throw more and more arbitrary amounts of money at people to subsidize their wages yourself. At some point (I'd argue we're past it already), the band-aid needs to get ripped off. Only then will we see self-correction. The almost immediate loss of many businesses will likely trigger other actions. It's already a no-win scenario.

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[-] JCreazy@midwest.social 77 points 10 months ago

I just stopped going to places or using services that expect me to tip. I hate the idea of tipping.

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[-] Rooter@lemmy.world 70 points 10 months ago

"Other struggling people are not the enemy".

Op is jeff bezos alt account.

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 70 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I remember when I realized tipping is insane (like 15 years ago at a bar). One of my friends was talking the waitress up and she was complaining about another table and the tip she expected. Some quick math worked out to she expected 40%.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 36 points 10 months ago

Keep in mind by doing that she probably raised her tip from your friend by at least 10%. I wouldn't assume there wasn't some strategy in that conversation.

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[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 63 points 10 months ago

Every time we go to Toronto we go to the same restaurant because they don't accept tips, they just pay their staff really well. Fantastic restaurant and I love supporting them.

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[-] zeppo@lemmy.world 63 points 10 months ago

I don’t really get why the expected percentage went up. 15% was the standard for a LONG time. 20% meant you thought they were great. Now 15 is considered shitty, like an insult, and we’re supposed to do 18 or 25 or 30. Meanwhile prices also went up. Why am I supposed to tip 25% now? Service hasn’t changed.

[-] SaltyIceteaMaker@iusearchlinux.fyi 30 points 10 months ago

Tipping in general should be for a good service or out of convenience. It shouldn't be expected

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[-] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 61 points 10 months ago

Actually pay restaurant workers a decent wage goddammit!

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[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 60 points 10 months ago

I've literally never seen a waiter get angry about not leaving a 25% tip. Can we please avoid manufactured outrage?

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[-] Cold_Brew_Enema@lemmy.world 58 points 10 months ago

Restaurants when they expect a 40% tip after you drive to the store for pickup

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[-] Gork@lemm.ee 54 points 10 months ago

It does annoy me slightly when POS systems have placeholder tip amounts but they're like 18%, 20%, and 25%. Sorry, but I just do the standard 15% in most cases so now I gotta calculate it out in my head.

[-] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 55 points 10 months ago

I'm gonna go with the standard 0% or round up the number if i feel like it.

[-] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 31 points 10 months ago

Right? Like why is people's STANDARD giving money away.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Normally, you're paying a tip on service. So, the waiter hovering over your table and collecting your order / refilling your drink / dusting off the table between courses is part of the dining experience. Its fee for service.

But yeah, now the credit card reader asks if you want to pay a tip to the fucking vending machine. Its asinine.

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[-] m_f@midwest.social 35 points 10 months ago

I just had a POS machine recommend 20%, 25%, or 30% for percentages. It seems like it's increasing

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[-] TedJ70@aussie.zone 47 points 10 months ago

Why not pay hospitality workers a halfway decent wage, and leave tipping for exemplary service? That's how it works in the rest of the developed world.

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[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 45 points 10 months ago

we're on the verge of a recession I gotta cut back

someone should make and serve my meals for me

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[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago

How about increasing wages to promote more consumer spending? Henry Ford-- a literal Nazi-- of all people, knew this!

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 40 points 10 months ago

One thing: We're not on the verge of a recession. The right wing media needs to make things up to attack and that was one of them. I couldn't believe all that talk, nothing happened, nothing was about to happen, but they fear mongered for months.

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[-] LoamImprovement@ttrpg.network 36 points 10 months ago

Look at Mr. Fatcat over here eating out while we're on the verge of a recession.

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[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 34 points 10 months ago
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[-] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago

Don't hate the player, the owner is the one to blame

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[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Getting real sick of the customer holding the weight of being the financial planner for a business and the owners getting by with no blame for wage stealing and shitty business practices in this circumstance.

[-] UsernameIsTooLon@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago

$70 is a few days worth of food if you do groceries. Plus $0 tips

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[-] Nurgle@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

On the verge of a recession is gonna be new go to excuse.

“Sorry babe, can’t do a bday gift this year. Nothing has changed for me, but there may or may not be a recession lurking in the shadows”

[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 10 months ago

Ahh yes, verge of a recession, but there's enough money to patronize a sit down restaurant where it's well known that the owner pays their staff starvation wages. Fuck your server!

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