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[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I don't know if all these recent jet memes are people just joking around or are you people actually convinced private jets are the problem?

Taylor swift, and every single billionaire alive could be flying 24/7/365 OR NOT and it would make absolutely no difference to fighting climate change.

The main polluters are industry and farming.

All this other shit around are just distractions keeping you from actually going after the people that are causing our crisis.

I don't know if it's astroturfing or what, but it seems like it's deliberate manipulation to keep people inactive.

You memeing on Tylor or using wood straws, or recycling your soda can does fuck all. A single paper plant will dump out so much co2 and pollution that will negate the effort of millions.

[-] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 2 points 9 months ago

Well, none of that matters anyways when China now emits almost twice as much CO2 as the US and is basically single-handedly not just absorbing all the rest of the world's reduction efforts, but increasing the global output enormously.

[-] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

Double the emissions for 4 times the people? Damn that's pretty efficient in comparison.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

While that's efficient by comparison, the atmosphere doesn't really give us a break for per-capita adjustments. Yes, the US is more irresponsible per capita and they need to fix that. However China gets more bang-for-the-buck in per-capita improvements when it comes to the actual environmental impact.

Depends on whether we are talking about where to optimize for best impact, or whether we are talking about fairness of blame.

[-] lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 9 months ago

the data you shared only shows half the picture. if you take into account cumulative emissions, the US isn't doing any good. it's responsible fit a quarter of emissions to date.

source: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-co-emissions

[-] evranch@lemmy.ca 7 points 9 months ago

Past emissions are just assigning blame, future emissions are all that matters. USA emissions have peaked, China is growing exponentially. That's a problem.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Blame matters, when the world’s leading economy at the time did fuck all to remedy the situation.

[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I think you mean deliberately sabotaged attempts at climate talks for decades.

[-] lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 9 months ago

the US(and Europe) emitted tons for centuries and became developed. and now when others want to do the same, the US goes bonkers.

and don't talk about alternatives, since the developed world can't even give 100 billion dollars to developing nations they promised years(in 2009) ago.

[-] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 2 points 9 months ago

That's cumulative as in "from the beginning of time" (as far as we have record allowing us to estimate). It merely proves that the US has had a head start in all this because they industrialized at a large scale far earlier than China. But as you can see, China's curve is literally steeper than anyone else's, having already almost caught up to the EU in a mere 50 years.

[-] DingoBilly@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

A lot of it is political at end of day.

Taylor Swift is looking to be a supporter of the Democratic Party in US, so the Republicans are running targeted attacks on her to reduce credibility as the election is coming up.

It's nothing new but just be aware that people posting these memes may just be bots/paid marketers essentially.

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