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[-] oregoncom@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago

It's gonna be real funny when all the rich assholes who invested in Lithium mines lose all their momey when Hydrogen Fuel Cells and Sodium Ion Batteries become the mainstream.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 15 points 8 months ago

China is also developing stuff like sodium-ion batteries that could end up being a lot cheaper than lithium as well.

[-] oregoncom@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

Yeah I saw some demos on bilibili. They're still not quite as good as lithium but similar enough that any fears of a "lithium shortage" during a time of crisis is basically wishful thinking now lmao.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 months ago

Exactly, and it's also worth noting that longer ranges you can get with lithium only matter for private cars. A lot of transportation such as buses, trucks, and so on, can run on fixed routes, so you just need a battery big enough to handle that. Incidentally, this is another argument in favor of public transport over private vehicle ownership.

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago

Need more sodium? Suck it out of the sea!

[-] Moss@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Extract salt from the ocean, extract sodium from salt. Turn sodium into batteries, throw batteries into the ocean. That's the beautiful circle of life

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 8 months ago

You act like they won't pressure US congress to ban the "dangerous" new battery technology so they can maintain their monopoly.

[-] oregoncom@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago

Sleeper builds in 2034: "No officer this car doesn't have any of those godless commie hydrogen fuel cells. It's all good old Nevada Lithium. I just paid for the Tesla™ Pro Maxx XL 2 advanced battery discharge™ service package is all."

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 8 months ago

"I only get 3 miles to the gallon officer, I swear! Only good old American wastefulness in this vehicle!"

[-] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago

lol that's not gonna happen because there'll be no need for cars
all US workers will just be in prison instead

[-] oregoncom@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago

In Prison they make you lease golf carts from GM that you need to drive 3 miles from your cell to the work site.

[-] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

cue that clip from My Dinner With Andre

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The US sold an advanced battery license to china because they didn’t take it seriously. China reached out to the American scientists and engineers who developed it to help guide their production. Now Americans can’t afford to produce it like china and china refuses to sell it to Americans despite it being a requirement for the license lol capitalist-laugh

[-] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago

Reminds me of the ottoman empire banning printing

[-] RonPaulyShore@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago

slaves to Big Scribe

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago

Excuse my ignorance but is this the sodium found in desalination sludge? If so does that they can reuse that sludge rather than dumping it?

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