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[-] Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 11 months ago

This also demonstrates quite clearly why redindustrialisation of Russia will not be happening in the foreseeable future, despite being desperately necessary. There's simply no way to compete, not even domestically

[-] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago

Well, I suppose it depends. Yeah, Russia won't be an industrial power on the level of China and the odds are both economies will continue to complement each other in a resource for manufactured goods type of relationship.

But not only has the Chinese economy become less and less dependent on exports since 2006, a Russian reindustrialization would still end up bringing manufactured inputs from China and elsewhere. Machinery, half finished goods, certain technological goods, and so on. An industrial policy is often at its best when it applies a strategic form of protectionism. You don't want to bar every single product from entering the country, you want to protect and bolster local industry. Certain imports are also a form of investment.

China's industrial output continues to grow even as they make massive industrial investments across the world too. Mexico is a major beneficiary, but Brazil is getting some car and train factories too.

The bigger question IMO is wether Russian institutions will continue to channel investment into industrial output, even after the war is over. If Russia is China's Canada, there's no reason why it can't have industry.

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 11 months ago

No, this is a anarchy of production perspective. We have seen that Russian weapons production, which is tightly managed by the state, is robust precisely because it was a strategic asset. Russia is likely capable of more such industrial strategy because production is a strategic asset necessary for autonomy. The liberal capitalist countries can't do this, and China has shown that they are interested in more countries outside the West building production capacity because China doesn't want to centralize the ability to resist Western sanctions. So Russia has an interest in doing it strategically and not anarchically, China has an interest in Russia doing it, China and Russia have good relations, and China can support Russia in doing it.

There is no need to outcompete China if you're not part of the Western bloc

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