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The annual salary a single person needs to live comfortably in the US is $89,461 (median across all states). (www.cnbc.com)

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Well over $100k in the higher cost of living states, too. And as the article states, that’s typically about double what the median salary is for a single person in most states.

I’d like to point out that AES states - while maybe they didn’t have all the same quality or quantity of consumer goods - were able to able to to provide a comfortable life for everyone without all the predatory that US workers currently have. And don’t take my word for it, take it from the neoliberal queen herself, Angela Merkel. When asked about life in the former GDR, she described it as “almost comfortable”. Now before you mention that “almost” is an important qualifier, note that the context of her quote was her trying to criticize the former GDR but she grudgingly conceded the comment above.

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[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 45 points 7 months ago

Important to note this is the median, so it's not like it's getting heavily skewed by high cost of living areas. Something I see is cost of living discussions is people will be dismissive because "not everyone lives in an expensive city" and it's probably important to note that over half of the population do in fact live in expensive cities.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 36 points 7 months ago

Doubling this, we all know how important de-suburbanization will be for the environment AND the inevitability of people moving into cities, anyone who plans cities in a way that they should be luxuries for the rich is amoral.

Yes, I do in fact believe that poor people deserve to exist in "nice" places like San Francisco. Want a community for other wealthy perverts? Go join a country club or something.

[-] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 7 months ago

Want a community for other wealthy perverts? Go ~~join a country club or something.~~ directly to the bottom of the ocean

[-] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 20 points 7 months ago

Also that outside of those cities wages are much lower anyways so even if rent is cheaper, you're probably still paying the same percentage of monthly income. I think back to when I was splitting a 2-bedroom apartment and paying $425+half the utilities per month as being "easier" but I also made less than a third of what I do now. The real difference is that my optimism for the future hadn't been completely crushed back then.

[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago

I notice groceries can get more expensive outside of cities too

[-] Des@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

yeah i commute a bit for my groceries now. half of what i pay at my local store for similar items

[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

In my sprawling city, I've noticed there's a ring of affordable groceries about 20 km from the city centre. In the city the high commercial rent pushes up. Further out, transport and infrastructure costs go up. Going a couple of hundred km away, it's more expensive than middle of the city

[-] Des@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

here the competition just dries up further from the cities that surround where im at. most towns just have one grocery store and it can fleece the shit out of everyone.

there should be bountiful farmers markets but they are tiny and only open for like 2 hours one day a week kind of deals