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The US Senate has approved a controversial landmark bill that could see TikTok banned in America.

It gives TikTok's Chinese owner, ByteDance, six months to sell its stake or the app will be blocked in the United States.

The bill will now be handed over to US President, Joe Biden, who has vowed to sign it into law as soon as it reaches his desk.

If that happens, ByteDance will have to seek approval from Chinese officials to complete a forced sale, which Beijing has vowed to oppose.

The measure was passed as part of a package of four bills which also included military aid for Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan and other US partners in the Indo- Pacific.

It got widespread support from lawmakers with 79 Senators voting for it and 18 voting against it.

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[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 38 points 7 months ago

Can't ByteDance just do what other companies do, declare that it's technically based in the Canary Islands and is therefore not Chinese?

[-] someone@hexbear.net 34 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It has nothing to do with China, really. That's just the excuse. The real reason for the ban is that Tiktok is becoming a hub for pro-Palestinian anti-genocide content. No amount of legal-location tricks will stop the US government from trying to kill Tiktok so long as it refuses to implement pro-Israel censorship.

[-] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It has everything to do with China. It's a company whose success threatens the profits of US monopolies in the same way as every other Chinese industry targeted by this administration. China's economic success undermines US global hegemony. TikTok's alleged "pro-Palestine" stance is entirely reflective of its younger user base. None of the people running ByteDance give a fuck about Palestine. They care about generating profit for shareholders, and they made a more addictive Skinner box than the US Skinner boxes companies. The US wants that profit going to US billionaires and not to the Chinese public. Chinese chip makers and EV manufacturers aren't being targeted because their customers are becoming too woke.

It's wishful thinking to believe that a critical mass of US teenagers are on the verge of posting their way to Palestinian liberation, because US public opinion, young people especially, doesn't control US policy. The US isn't a democracy. Facebook could be wall to wall river to the sea free Palestine posts tomorrow, and the US government's commitment to exterminate the people of Palestine would remain unchanged. Joe Biden isn't making this decision because he thinks it will result in a higher net popularity. He's doing it because he knows he doesn't have to worry about popularity. He doesn't really even have to worry about winning reelection. Anyone who would be permitted to replace him would still implement the same core policies.

[-] someone@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

That's nonsense. Where's the ultra-urgent legislative push to force Tencent to sell its western assets? It's a Chinese company that owns 100% of US-based Riot Games, the League of Legends people. They also own 40% of US-based Epic Games, the Fortnite people. Both are money printing machines, sending western cash to China. But I don't see American politicians handwringing about those two situations.

What's the real difference? Influential zionists are freaking the hell out about Tiktok.

Freaking.

The.

Hell.

Out.

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[-] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 7 months ago

You don't see legislative pushes for that yet. I know this might be difficult for some people on this website to accept, but the video game sector probably isn't anyone's first priority in terms of geopolitical hegemony. PC gaming is popular and lucrative, but the user base isn't exactly on the same scale as phones, PCs generally, or social media. TikTok is a threat to Meta and Google monopolies in a way that League of Legends isn't to any of the big five. That's not to say that Microsoft might not eventually push for it, but Microsoft has never had the kind of monopoly over the video game space that they have over desktop OS. Huawei is a similar threat to Apple and Google's mobile monopoly, which is why they're targeted.

The idea that the poor powerless US is being led around on a leash by a secret cabal of "zionists" is superficial and backwards. Zionism functionally only exists as an extension of the US imperial project. If the Zionist occupation stopped serving US strategic interests, it would collapse overnight. It isn't capable of independently sustaining itself. It's obvious that anyone committed to US imperialism would be similarly committed to protecting its investment in the occupation of Palestine as a forward operating base for US military objectives. The US government is not being "infiltrated" or "tricked" by a "foreign power", as universally flattering as that explanation is to American vanity. It's a popular cope because it gives US citizens a superficial explanation for why they have no influence over public policy, while allowing them to maintain the delusion that their country is actually good if not for the dangerous foreigners secretly corrupting the righteous American spirit.

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 11 points 7 months ago

Their current setup should already do exactly that. Tiktok is based in Singapore, not China.

[-] RuthlessCriticism@hexbear.net 11 points 7 months ago

no, for obvious reasons

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