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submitted 6 months ago by happybadger@hexbear.net to c/news@hexbear.net

The US Senate has approved a controversial landmark bill that could see TikTok banned in America.

It gives TikTok's Chinese owner, ByteDance, six months to sell its stake or the app will be blocked in the United States.

The bill will now be handed over to US President, Joe Biden, who has vowed to sign it into law as soon as it reaches his desk.

If that happens, ByteDance will have to seek approval from Chinese officials to complete a forced sale, which Beijing has vowed to oppose.

The measure was passed as part of a package of four bills which also included military aid for Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan and other US partners in the Indo- Pacific.

It got widespread support from lawmakers with 79 Senators voting for it and 18 voting against it.

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[-] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 78 points 6 months ago

It gives TikTok's Chinese owner, ByteDance, six months to sell its stake or the app will be blocked in the United States.

so two weeks before Election Day?

[-] elpaso@hexbear.net 62 points 6 months ago

Political instincts so awful it's amazing the democrats have survived this long.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 29 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Nah it was changed to 12 months in the more recent vote.

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[-] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 77 points 6 months ago

If you listen hard, you can hear VPN providers' eyes turn into dollar signs.

[-] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 49 points 6 months ago

Texans are already giving them a boom

[-] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 71 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Any app that the US government can’t control will be treated this way. That means any app developed outside of the US or its vassals that gets popular enough among Americans. It’s how the US implements its own soft “Great Firewall”.

[-] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 70 points 6 months ago

Shut that shit down in the US, get US teens to use VPNs set to not-the-USA so they can keep using TikTok, and thus get a whole generation into widespread VPN use.

[-] porcupine@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 6 months ago

you say that like the US can't just get backdoor access to US VPN providers and criminalize non-compliant VPN use.

[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 69 points 6 months ago

The bill will now be handed over to US President, Joe Biden, who has said he will sign it into law as soon as it reaches his desk.

If that happens, ByteDance will have to seek approval from Chinese officials to complete a forced sale, which Beijing has vowed to oppose. Analysts say the process could take years.

If any of this is true, this rocks. We're going to see the US government censor an entire app used by millions of Americans xicko

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 67 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Right as university campuses around the country are filling with mass demonstrations facing extreme state repression. During what will probably be the hottest year in human history. As all the utility companies face severe supply crunches and the economy is melting down. During 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝓂𝑜𝓈𝓉 𝒾𝓂𝓅𝑜𝓇𝓉𝒶𝓃𝓉 𝑒𝓁𝑒𝒸𝓉𝒾𝑜𝓃 𝑜𝒻 𝑜𝓊𝓇 𝓁𝒾𝒻𝑒𝓉𝒾𝓂𝑒𝓈.

I could see it prompting a Certified 1968 Moment if/when things get worse this year. I don't know how it would compare to the BLM protests of 2020 but this decision was bad.

[-] ped_xing@hexbear.net 47 points 6 months ago

It will be late October before when this takes effect, unless he ponders it some. He has what, 10 days? So he's going to piss off all the young people 2-12 days before the election.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 25 points 6 months ago
[-] Frank@hexbear.net 65 points 6 months ago

How the fuck did Tiktok become the focus of the third (fourth? Who even knows) red scare?

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 73 points 6 months ago

Alternative media is normally recuperated into another generic ideological state apparatus. They control every other platform that's popular with the youngsters. Tiktok is the only one where the algorithm doesn't immediately punish you for being a leftist and the mods/admins can't shape what that word means in direct line with the US government. Now our lying eyes can't deceive us.

[-] RuthlessCriticism@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago

Media is extremely important to control.

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[-] Quaxamilliom@hexbear.net 61 points 6 months ago

zionists dont have full control of TikTok like they do Meta and Twitter apps, and that just won't stand.

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[-] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 61 points 6 months ago

Literally "China is making me take your treats away" policy

[-] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 60 points 6 months ago

This is so dumb what a dumb fucking joke of a country

[-] Mokey@hexbear.net 54 points 6 months ago

Its not just tiktok, far from it but the future is terrifying. I genuinely hate living here

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 47 points 6 months ago

Genocide Joe needs to keep those kids from seeing how much he loves murdering children. At least nothing bad could happen when it's purchased by far-right Trump cabinet members.

[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 41 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I’m assuming a ban would be implemented by removing TikTok from US app stores. If so, there is a workaround on both iOS and Android: create an alternate iCloud or Google account based in a non-US country and download/update TikTok through that account. Once downloaded, your phone will display and let you use apps from multiple regions.

On the Play Store, it’s as easy as switching accounts in the Play Store app (tap your profile in the upper-right). On iOS, it’s more annoying, as you need to fully sign out of iCloud on your phone, which resets things like Apple Pay, but it can be done every few months to pull updates.

[-] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 32 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Given the fact that side loading apps is easy on android and functionally not possible on iOS in the US, this style of ban may actually drive young people away from iOS when they see their Android-using peers still using TikTok unimpeded.

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 31 points 6 months ago

Android users might be able to just use FDroid and download that way as well

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

And that’s only if you don’t already have it downloaded. I wonder if a VPN will be needed in order to use the app, but it’s not like ByteDance will just block US IPs, why would they, so you’d have to block it at the ISP level.

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[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 40 points 6 months ago

May we all perish in the wrathful fires of the Zoomers. inshallah

[-] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 38 points 6 months ago

Can't ByteDance just do what other companies do, declare that it's technically based in the Canary Islands and is therefore not Chinese?

[-] someone@hexbear.net 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It has nothing to do with China, really. That's just the excuse. The real reason for the ban is that Tiktok is becoming a hub for pro-Palestinian anti-genocide content. No amount of legal-location tricks will stop the US government from trying to kill Tiktok so long as it refuses to implement pro-Israel censorship.

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[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

Their current setup should already do exactly that. Tiktok is based in Singapore, not China.

[-] RuthlessCriticism@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

no, for obvious reasons

[-] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 35 points 6 months ago

Every accusation a confession: all of the things they say China can do, the US Government has a track record of doing. It just says to me that ByteDance and Tik Tok have just been more difficult to wrangle.

[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 35 points 6 months ago

Potential? Only the parliamentarian could stop this

[-] AcidLeaves@hexbear.net 31 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Quote me when this happens:

Biden has publicly stated he'll sign the bill if it reaches his desk. But what will happen is that he'll actually make a big fuss about how he has "heard the voices of the American people, and especially the youth and future generation of this country" and veto the bill instead. Thus, ensuring both the largest voter turnout from young adults in decades and his second term election win

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 46 points 6 months ago

That would be the electoral equivalent of pretending a spoonful of food is a plane to trick a toddler into eating it. I don't see democrats being competent enough to open their mouths.

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 16 points 6 months ago
[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 41 points 6 months ago

After he's hung congress out to dry and told AIPAC no?

[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago

Nah this makes him look worse than doing nothing at all.

A second Cold War is sufficient to explain it. That, and the US’s desire to have complete control over social media.

[-] RuthlessCriticism@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago

0% chance, it is attached to all the military goodies. Also the ban won't come into effect before the election in any case.

[-] Coca_Cola_but_Commie@hexbear.net 31 points 6 months ago

Weird, is anyone else hearing the opening to "World Destruction" by Time Zone and featuring Afrika Bambaataa and John Lydon? Just me?

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 29 points 6 months ago

China should do the same thing for every American fast food location in China

[-] Goatithro@hexbear.net 28 points 6 months ago

They timed the deadline to be after the election but I don’t think it’s going work out for the dems.

[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago

death to america

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 24 points 6 months ago

If that happens, ByteDance will have to seek approval from Chinese officials to complete a forced sale, which Beijing has vowed to oppose.

Lol when has Beijing ever said anything. made-it-the-fuck-up

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 22 points 6 months ago
[-] StalinStan@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago

So we are just switching to doyin yeah?

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago

SHUT IT DOWN

[-] laziestflagellant@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

Do you think the dems would cry election interference in the hypothetical scenario that Bytedance went 'okay bye' and closed TikTok in the US before the 6-12 months was up

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago

Yes

Also if they do wait

Also if they just sell it

They're going to blame China for bidens loss no matter what happens to tic tok.

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